Alchemy
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from the subtitle.
Yep, that's why i said it was 7.62x51mm (which is the same as .308). The case necks look a bit short for that though, which is perhaps why BDHill begs to differ.
from the subtitle.
precisely why I beg to differ, the necks are too short compared to the case length, and the bulge at the base of the case, I have never seen that before.Yep, that's why i said it was 7.62x51mm (which is the same as .308). The case necks look a bit short for that though, which is perhaps why BDHill begs to differ.
A serious question, how is this Mesaba's fault? You're asking an agent from another company to take responsibility for another companies passengers? That would be like me running out of gas in front of a BP and asking the cashier to help push my car to the Exxon down the street.
The dispatcher dropped the ball when selecting that airport.
The Captain. In the air you have sole operational control. Atleast thats the way we have it. Continental and XE can't blame their own people so blame Mesaba. Also it was an NWA station till a year or two ago when the did the out you go bring you back as XJ switcharoo.
Your response to my post makes this much sense.....
Where did I mention the investigation?
The Captain. In the air you have sole operational control. Atleast thats the way we have it. Continental and XE can't blame their own people so blame Mesaba. Also it was an NWA station till a year or two ago when the did the out you go bring you back as XJ switcharoo.
Seriously?
This whole thread is about the DoT's report on the incident. It's not CO and XE doling out blame as you accuse, it's them.
http://www.dot.gov/affairs/2009/dot12709.htm
cute graphic though. you're really good at that.
A serious question, how is this Mesaba's fault? You're asking an agent from another company to take responsibility for another companies passengers? That would be like me running out of gas in front of a BP and asking the cashier to help push my car to the Exxon down the street.
The dispatcher dropped the ball when selecting that airport.
CAL and xjet aren't blaming anyone.The Captain. In the air you have sole operational control. Atleast thats the way we have it. Continental and XE can't blame their own people so blame Mesaba. Also it was an NWA station till a year or two ago when the did the out you go bring you back as XJ switcharoo.
Yeah but that was before they had an Delta North Airbus divert and it's crew timed out. So I'm sure if they hadn't had to take care of their own IROPs, they could have accomidated the XE flight as had been arranged.Supposedly XE Dispatch called XJ ops in RST prior to the divert and arranged for services, wich was part of the reason why they went there in the first place! I guess XJ didn't quite hold up their end of the bargain.
Well if the Secretary of Transportation is weighing in on this it is downright laughable. Frankly this crap wouldn't happen pre 911. All this talk by TSA and DOT of "lack of common sense" is pure and utter BS. Lack of common sense is shown daily by a bureaucracy more concerned with covering their own backsides. As someone who has had to listen to some silly SIDA briefing and received the generic threat of a 20k$ fine if I don't watch a elevator door close behind me, I can see why NO ONE would take responsibility to use their common sense and let the folks into the airport. Why the milquetoast press hasn't pointed it out, and the DOT bigshouts open their big fat mouths without intense scrutiny is a joke.
The Captain. In the air you have sole operational control. Atleast thats the way we have it. Continental and XE can't blame their own people so blame Mesaba. Also it was an NWA station till a year or two ago when the did the out you go bring you back as XJ switcharoo.
My qestion is if Dispatch has a good route and there's a small window to get out, would you feel safe going with that option? Like the Hub Coordinator said, dispatch isn't going to let you fly or route you through or in any bad weather.
dispatch isn't going to let you fly or route you through or in any bad weather.