Still counting landings?

Depends on the airline. Eagle does not auto log landings.

There I just HIEMJ/02AUG17/03AUG17/04AUG17 when I got the warning message saying my currency was about to expire. Either that or the captain logs my landing in ACARS for me. But he never figured out why my employee number changed on every leg because I kept making up a different employee number for him to put into ACARS to log the landing He didn't even notice when I gave him his employee number to log my landing.

I think after 8 years at eagle officially I only have 96 landings that's what the system has for me anyways.
Ha. Use mine next time. 653535
 
One of the apps I fill out on either airlineapps or pilotcredentials asks for landings. I've landed the ERJ 2,019 times. Landings don't match exactly 50% of the sectors but are close. Some are gate returns where there was no takeoff. Other times I've given new FO's the landing on my leg, or whatever else.
 
Okay so I'm sitting here updating my paper log book via foreflight and it just got me to thinking when or if did any if you stop counting landings? Or is it something you should always count?

Guess my real question is would a prospective employer be any less impressed if you quit counting landings at 2,000+?


12,931 :)

Which you like it broken down by type also? :p
 
Y tho? Wouldn't it be easier to just put in your # and have it all logged?

If I were entering the numbers then I guess I should use my own employee number. But I don't bother logging my landing in ACARS as it's only for the company to track my currency.

I do log my landings in my own logbook or more accurately my smartphone app logs my landing for me. So I still do keep track of how many landings I've done.

Ha. Use mine next time. 653535

607582. Thanks. Always wanted one more 145 leg.

607464. Include me! I gotta pump those numbers up!

I'll keep your numbers in mind the next time I fly with a captain who wants to enter my landing for me :)

Where I work now the FO enters who did the landing after completing the after landing checklist. I assume the FOs done it or not. I'm not particularly interested in micromanaging whether he's done it or not. I guess I'll find out when I get the notice from training to come back early for a PC to reestablish currency.


I guess for the original poster about still logging landings after 2000+ landings - log them if you want - don't if you don't. If you're still looking to get hired somewhere else some airlines are more picky than others but you never know where you are going to end up interviewing so my personal view is to have the logbook prepared where they are going to nitpick (I have no idea which airline nitpicks) because you never know. I bet a lot of pilots from braniff eastern pan am twa never thought they'd ever have to interview again.
 
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If I were entering the numbers then I guess I should use my own employee number. But I don't bother logging my landing in ACARS as it's only for the company to track my currency.

I do log my landings in my own logbook or more accurately my smartphone app logs my landing for me. So I still do keep track of how many landings I've done.







I'll keep your numbers in mind the next time I fly with a captain who wants to enter my landing for me :)

Where I work now the FO enters who did the landing after completing the after landing checklist. I assume the FOs done it or not. I'm not particularly interested in micromanaging whether he's done it or not. I guess I'll find out when I get the notice from training to come back early for a PC to reestablish currency.


I guess for the original poster about still logging landings after 2000+ landings - log them if you want - don't if you don't. If you're still looking to get hired somewhere else some airlines are more picky than others but you never know where you are going to end up interviewing so my personal view is to have the logbook prepared where they are going to nitpick (I have no idea which airline nitpicks) because you never know. I bet a lot of pilots from braniff eastern pan am twa never thought they'd ever have to interview again.

Not sure why you have beef with the company tracking landings. It is required by the FAA. At my shop, you have to enter the employee numbers to initialize the ACARS.
 
I don't have a problem with the airline tracking landings. I just chose to make the manual HIEMJ entry to make myself current again when it was time to make it.

At the time I was hired, the manual entry was the only way to log currency. The ACARS entry to log landings became available a few years after I was hired. So maybe a case of can't teach a dog new tricks?

I guess the worst thing that could happen is that the FAA decides that it doesn't like the way the airline is tracking currency as there is no error trapping.

Anyone can give a CRJ/175 pilot a EMJ landing and vice versa by entering the appropriate employee number in ACARS on the aircraft.

Anyone can make themselves current even if they haven't flown in years by making the manual entry every 90 days and make up the dates for the landings.

Though I did make sure I did fly on the dates I entered.


With my current airline the only way to enter landings in thru ACARS. But it's the FOs job to do it - so I assume the FO has done it. I'm not going to micromanage the FO to verify he's done it.
 
With my current airline the only way to enter landings in thru ACARS. But it's the FOs job to do it - so I assume the FO has done it. I'm not going to micromanage the FO to verify he's done it.

Fair enough, although, isn't one of the requirements of being a captain to make sure everyone you are responsible for is doing their job properly?

You review the logbook and MELs to make sure they were completed correctly, yes? Isn't that micromanaging the mechanics work?
 
Depends on the airline. Eagle does not auto log landings.

There I just HIEMJ/02AUG17/03AUG17/04AUG17 when I got the warning message saying my currency was about to expire. Either that or the captain logs my landing in ACARS for me. But he never figured out why my employee number changed on every leg because I kept making up a different employee number for him to put into ACARS to log the landing He didn't even notice when I gave him his employee number to log my landing.

I think after 8 years at eagle officially I only have 96 landings that's what the system has for me anyways.

@L-16B was the first ever domestic pilot at AA to go non current on landings. Pretty impressive. He couldn't figure out how to log them lol
 
Fair enough, although, isn't one of the requirements of being a captain to make sure everyone you are responsible for is doing their job properly?

You review the logbook and MELs to make sure they were completed correctly, yes? Isn't that micromanaging the mechanics work?
No, because it is spelled out in your company AOM/FOM/Whatever to make sure you have an airworthy aircraft, to include MEL's and closed out faults etc...
I've seen many a time, where the mx dude writes up the wrong fault, and creates the wrong MEL. It's not your job as Captain to make sure which sequence the CB's are pulled to to a reset. It's your job to make sure the MEL is written up, transferred to deferral list and notify MOC (our FOM procedure).

Tell me Herr Captain, when was the last time you checked the FO's O2 Mask?
 
No, because it is spelled out in your company AOM/FOM/Whatever to make sure you have an airworthy aircraft, to include MEL's and closed out faults etc...
I've seen many a time, where the mx dude writes up the wrong fault, and creates the wrong MEL. It's not your job as Captain to make sure which sequence the CB's are pulled to to a reset. It's your job to make sure the MEL is written up, transferred to deferral list and notify MOC (our FOM procedure).

Tell me Herr Captain, when was the last time you checked the FO's O2 Mask?

Before every flight. During the Preflight Check. Each pilot has to state they checked itheir mask. If, after the 3rd, 4th time we have to stop the checklist so they can test it, you betcha there's gonna be some remedial training going on.
 
I've generally found that landings equal to takeoffs yields reasonable career success. Is there some other metric I'm missing?
 
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