Stay classy PSA!

genot said:
I appreciate the moral. Never bartended, but when the situation arises I know what I want. In your case, if I fail to specify the good stuff, come at me with the bad stuff. If I still have the wherewithal to exclude the bad stuff in my order, don't hose me. Simple. Upsell me when its obvious I have an inkling or two about adult beverages and its game on. I learned eons ago its best to tip well enough to be on a first name basis with everyone from your bartender to your mechanic.

Fortunately for me the worst I've had to say today was / SWA maintain 200 or better on base or you're number 6. Polite prompt movement of the Cappy's right hand on the thrust levers and we're all copacetic.
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My way of upselling is to ask what kind of liquor they want if they don't specify. For instance, let's say they order a margarita:

"I'll take a margarita, salt and rocks"

"What kind of tequila would you like in that?"

"meh, well's fine..."

"You got it, coming right up" (if it's one of my regulars, I sneak some herradura silver in there. Friends don't let friends drink tequila from a plastic bottle)
 
A150K said:
I've been a bartender/server/host/bussboy (when I first started at the tender age of 15) for the past 7 years. It's a rough industry to work in for an extended period of time, but at the same time you build valuable people skills while doing it. I guess it's a good thing that I may be going to CFI school next month-I have a potential full-time CFI job lined up.
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I think a job like this should be required. You really learn how to deal with people. You can always tell at a restaurant or bar who has been on the other side of the counter.
 
I their defense and I mean their anger not the words they used, but it is frustrating when they make the guy going slow go fast and the guy going fast to go slow...if you want to go slow then you will be sequenced accordingly. Give them a turn or hold or something and let the fast guy go ahead. We have this happen all the time on last legs into DCA from the north. We are hauling butt on the SKILS arrival and brickyard is snailing it on the CLIPR and we always get turned and slowed way early so we don't hit at BAL...why not turn brickyard and let us keep trucking? Makes me so angry but I don't resort to calling them idiots. Just my two cents.
 
jtrain609 said:
260? Seriously? Who descends at anything less than 5 knots below barber pole?
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I do. We have cost index speeds that at first I wasn't to thrilled about. But the. I remembered that I get paid by the minute. As long as we are close to on time, I'm in no hurry to get anywhere.
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
Why not turn brickyard and let us keep trucking?
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If I had to guess, there is probably more traffic on the CLIPR than the SKILS, and that corridor is much less forgiving for delay vectors. Would be a great question to post in the ATC section.
 
jtrain609 said:
260? Seriously? Who descends at anything less than 5 knots below barber pole?
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I guess SWA does...

Odd.

Somehow though, I'm not all that surprised. VNAV must be nice.

Screaming_Emu said:
I do. We have cost index speeds that at first I wasn't to thrilled about. But the. I remembered that I get paid by the minute. As long as we are close to on time, I'm in no hurry to get anywhere.
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I like tri-fecta...

Overblock, D-0 and A-14.
 
I'm finding best economy in the 50 seater is between 240 or so with a 100 knot tailwind to 270-280 with a 100 knot headwind. We're filed at those speeds so our TAS reflects that.
 
If we're on time I fly cost index, which is around 270 for climb, Cruz, and descent on avg. if we way early I fly 250. I always fly 290 going into a class B airport
 
Usually it's best to keep editorial comments to yourself. Everything is recorded and no point in a trip to the chief pilot's office over something so silly.
 
BobDDuck said:
Southwest going slow? I call shenanigans.
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Nah, that's normal for them at altitude. They go really fast down low and on the ground, but slow up at altitude. Saves gas, I suppose, but it's annoying as hell when you're behind them. I just hope they leave our 717 profiles alone.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I do. We have cost index speeds that at first I wasn't to thrilled about. But the. I remembered that I get paid by the minute. As long as we are close to on time, I'm in no hurry to get anywhere.
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We don't have a cost index. I barely even know what that is to tell you the truth. We climb at 290 to .65, cruise at max speed, then descend at max speed and are flight planned for such.
 
Pilotdude3407 said:
I their defense and I mean their anger not the words they used, but it is frustrating when they make the guy going slow go fast and the guy going fast to go slow...if you want to go slow then you will be sequenced accordingly. Give them a turn or hold or something and let the fast guy go ahead. We have this happen all the time on last legs into DCA from the north. We are hauling butt on the SKILS arrival and brickyard is snailing it on the CLIPR and we always get turned and slowed way early so we don't hit at BAL...why not turn brickyard and let us keep trucking? Makes me so angry but I don't resort to calling them idiots. Just my two cents.
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I am on the receiving end of that. NY Center almost always picks the wrong one to be number 1. 80% of the time the SKILS has a tailwind and they are showing 440kts across the ground and the CLIPR is showing 330, dead tie to BAL distance wise. Who does NY put first? The CLIPR.....ARGGHHHHH!!!. They could just let them run, tell the SKILS "Don't slow down til PCT tells you to" and not have to vector at all.
 
jtrain609 said:
260? Seriously? Who descends at anything less than 5 knots below barber pole?
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I do JTRAIN. There's no need to work a 40 yr old jet that hard. Besides, I'll run your but over at 5 kts below barber pole (.88/350). We normally descend at .77/280 for max fuel savings.

I remeber going into Laredo one night and getting yelled at by a turboprop pilot for running his butt over and kicking him out of the pattern. He was going off. about he flies a Pilatus and we are being jerks and can go slower that 140 if we wanted to. It was quite commical, especially after he comes hot rodding into customs and hops out and walks inside (he's inbound). Customs didn't take too kindly and made his night 'real fun' and real long...
 
C150J said:
If I had to guess, there is probably more traffic on the CLIPR than the SKILS, and that corridor is much less forgiving for delay vectors. Would be a great question to post in the ATC section.
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There is more traffic on the CLIPR but generally the vector area is the same. There is talk that Potomac will get that airspace and if that happens I think you'll see a change in how it is run. Being a terminal environment PCT has a lot more leeway with diverging rules/separation minima etc.
 
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