Stay classy PSA!

cmill

cmill

Cold Ass Honky
Heard this little gem on center today:

ATC: SWA say airspeed
SWA: 260kts
ATC: Max FWD, bluestreak, reduce speed to follow.

PSA: Theres 100kt head wind up here and the guys doing 260. Real smart.
ATC: say again.
PSA: Southwest, he's not doing anyone any favors, he needs to learn how to operate.
SWA: Go ahead and call management in dallas.
PSA: You're an idiot.


SWA didnt say much after that, and PSA went on bitching to ATC.

Theres been plenty of times ive wanted to call someone an idiot/moron/jackass over the radio, but usually i (along with anyone with half a brain,) can muster a little bit more tact.
 
We changed our descent speed from 280 to 261 or 266 depending on which model over a year ago.
 
Such an exchange is inexcusable. I'd ask for ATC's phone number and the operating initials of the controller. Then I'd call the facility and see if they are interested in pursuing the incident as you'd be happy to back them up. If it was a union airline, I'd see if I could get pro-standards email and shoot something to them. Probably pointless, but if there was already a track record you might add to it.
 
DE727UPS said:
Such an exchange is inexcusable. I'd ask for ATC's phone number and the operating initials of the controller. Then I'd call the facility and see if they are interested in pursuing the incident as you'd be happy to back them up. If it was a union airline, I'd see if I could get pro-standards email and shoot something to them. Probably pointless, but if there was already a track record you might add to it.
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Theres plenty of other radio police out there. Besides, its not really any of my business. The PSA pilot already made himself sound like a dumb ass. It would actually be kinda funny if it wasnt so childish; Or, maybe thats the exact reason why its funny. IDK.
 
Apart from pointing out something like this for mere entertainment value some people get there panties far too bunched up in a wad at what other pilots say on the radio. Who cares! Was safety compromised either by actions discussed or cluttering up the frequency, doubtful. My feeling is your run your mouth and radio I'll run mine...If you're gonna be a tool on frequency then be a funny tool...
 
Tell Southwest they're number one, clear them for the visual on the downwind and you can squeeze about 3 Skyhawks in front of them if you really wanted to. I don't see what the problem is though with the language. I've had much worse hurled at me by a then going bankrupt major pilot for being held to 270 for the next 3 minutes when the really wanted 290 due to the RJ ahead.
 
eh sounds like someone had a bad day, SWA have mandated "slow to" speeds at certain descent altitudes, they will all but beg you to issue something faster most of time. PSA guy probably crossed the line with the insult but I am guessing he had a commute flight to catch or something. Sounds like a fun day on the scopes to me. Controller was probably laughing
 
I love hearing people get bent out of shape on the radio. The best are the guys who are yelling at the guy on operations frequency "its 4 minutes prior to push and we don't have catering...what kind of operation is this? Blah blah blah"

Stuff happens every day. Getting bent out of shape about it is going to raise your blood pressure and accomplish nothing else. Though it will entertain me greatly. Some people just care too much.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I love hearing people get bent out of shape on the radio. The best are the guys who are yelling at the guy on operations frequency "its 4 minutes prior to push and we don't have catering...what kind of operation is this? Blah blah blah"

Stuff happens every day. Getting bent out of shape about it is going to raise your blood pressure and accomplish nothing else. Though it will entertain me greatly. Some people just care too much.
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I've heard some funny stuff hanging out in ops. My favorite so far:
Pilot: "We called for a window wash when we were 10 out, they've already connected the pushback and have no headset, get it taken care of!".
Ops: "I thought EUG was a crew change, didn't you guys come in from gate 70?"
*no call back*

Haha.
 
Screaming_Emu said:
I love hearing people get bent out of shape on the radio. The best are the guys who are yelling at the guy on operations frequency "its 4 minutes prior to push and we don't have catering...what kind of operation is this? Blah blah blah"

Stuff happens every day. Getting bent out of shape about it is going to raise your blood pressure and accomplish nothing else. Though it will entertain me greatly. Some people just care too much.
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You just hit the nail on the head on one of my soar spots.

<OFF TOPIC>

I currently work as a bartender. Just tonight, I poured two well brand vodka tonics when one of the new servers came up to me saying:

Him: "I never sell well brand, that should be a last resort"

Me: "I give people what they ask for, it's called honesty"
Him: "You just gotta learn to upsell, it's really basic stuff, I'll give you some pointers"
Me: "I don't need any help, but thanks"
Him: "No...I mean really. You gotta try to upse..."
Me: "Listen, I said I don't want your opinion. I've worked here for 5 years and I have basic people skills. I don't care if you are god's gift to food and drink service. You can have that title while I move on with my life"


The moral of the story, unless someone is doing something unsafe or unethical, don't push your opinions on them. And please, don't try to demonstrate how awesome you. It makes you look like an ass.

Sorry for the tangent, bad night at the office.
 
cmill said:
Theres been plenty of times ive wanted to call someone an idiot/moron/jackass over the radio, but usually i (along with anyone with half a brain,) can muster a little bit more tact.
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That, and handle it on the ground if its important enough.
 
A150K said:
You just hit the nail on the head on one of my soar spots.

<OFF TOPIC>

I currently work as a bartender. Just tonight, I poured two well brand vodka tonics when one of the new servers came up to me saying:

Him: "I never sell well brand, that should be a last resort"

Me: "I give people what they ask for, it's called honesty"
Him: "You just gotta learn to upsell, it's really basic stuff, I'll give you some pointers"
Me: "I don't need any help, but thanks"
Him: "No...I mean really. You gotta try to upse..."
Me: "Listen, I said I don't want your opinion. I've worked here for 5 years and I have basic people skills. I don't care if you are god's gift to food and drink service. You can have that title while I move on with my life"


The moral of the story, unless someone is doing something unsafe or unethical, don't push your opinions on them. And please, don't try to demonstrate how awesome you. It makes you look like an ass.

Sorry for the tangent, bad night at the office.
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I appreciate the moral. Never bartended, but when the situation arises I know what I want. In your case, if I fail to specify the good stuff, come at me with the bad stuff. If I still have the wherewithal to exclude the bad stuff in my order, don't hose me. Simple. Upsell me when its obvious I have an inkling or two about adult beverages and its game on. I learned eons ago its best to tip well enough to be on a first name basis with everyone from your bartender to your mechanic.

Fortunately for me the worst I've had to say today was / SWA maintain 200 or better on base or you're number 6. Polite prompt movement of the Cappy's right hand on the thrust levers and we're all copacetic.
 
A150K said:
You just hit the nail on the head on one of my soar spots.

<OFF TOPIC>

I currently work as a bartender. Just tonight, I poured two well brand vodka tonics when one of the new servers came up to me saying:

Him: "I never sell well brand, that should be a last resort"

Me: "I give people what they ask for, it's called honesty"
Him: "You just gotta learn to upsell, it's really basic stuff, I'll give you some pointers"
Me: "I don't need any help, but thanks"
Him: "No...I mean really. You gotta try to upse..."
Me: "Listen, I said I don't want your opinion. I've worked here for 5 years and I have basic people skills. I don't care if you are god's gift to food and drink service. You can have that title while I move on with my life"


The moral of the story, unless someone is doing something unsafe or unethical, don't push your opinions on them. And please, don't try to demonstrate how awesome you. It makes you look like an ass.

Sorry for the tangent, bad night at the office.
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I tended bar for 4 years including 6 more as a server in high school and college...I understand completely where you're coming from.
 
CFIT99 said:
I tended bar for 4 years including 6 more as a server in high school and college...I understand completely where you're coming from.
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I've been a bartender/server/host/bussboy (when I first started at the tender age of 15) for the past 7 years. It's a rough industry to work in for an extended period of time, but at the same time you build valuable people skills while doing it. I guess it's a good thing that I may be going to CFI school next month-I have a potential full-time CFI job lined up.
 
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