CO poisoning? Or actually CO2 poisoning?
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CO poisoning? Or actually CO2 poisoning?
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
Carbon Dioxide poisoning? I assume you mean CO, Carbon Monoxide.
I just read the preliminary NTSB report. It makes no mention of CO poisoning. Where'd you get this information?
wjmiller3
Well-Known Member
Ok, typo, carbon MONOXIDE. Thats what the family was told, and it was passed to the FBO here. Nothing formal in writing or any report from NTSB, just second hand info. So take it for what its worth.
XLR99
Well-Known Member
Not a clue-seems like backtracking to me. Unfortunately I don't have any specifics, I've heard comments that Cirrus owners are going to non-CSIPs for FRs and annual training because their insurance dropped the CSIP requirement so they can go to somebody at their home 'drome for less $$. Go figure.
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Maybe it's that people are flying so much less (gas costs) the numbers work out that it is less people are flying and less total risk. Hehe, we could probably make up stuff all day. Where is an insurance adjuster when u need one? Like trying to get ahold of ARINC when you actually HAVE a red light.
DeltaAVL
New Member
What's the time frame for the release of the final NTSB report? Are GA reports released earlier than the typical part 121 report?
Area 5150
Model citizen, Zero discipline
Sheeze, thanks for this link, however I can't believe this crash is a year old now. So much for that late summer/early fall 08, comment.
So, I guess I don't understand how CO was able to leak inside the cockpit area of this aircraft, unless it was absorbing into the ventilation system (ac/heating) somehow. And obviously if it was, there would be no way the pilot or passengers would have known the were being poisoned. Doesn't the exhaust pipe vent under the engine?
And I guess my next question is, how common is this? Maybe it's time for cirrus to install a CO monitor inside the cockpit and a small vent window.
Sorry for any typos, but trying to type on a iTouch isn't a fun task.:banghead:
Oldnotbold
New Member
A long time ago, there was this saying:
Dangerous times are 500 PIC. ( Don't know much. )
1500 PIC ( Think they know it all. )
5000 PIC. ( Know it all but don't bother to use it all any more. )
15,000 PIC. ( Starting to forget it all. )
The two most dangerous things for pilots:
1) "I thought", instead of "I know."
2) Surprisingly, forgetting to fly the airplane.
The trouble with fast airplanes is that they don't do slow real well.
Dangerous times are 500 PIC. ( Don't know much. )
1500 PIC ( Think they know it all. )
5000 PIC. ( Know it all but don't bother to use it all any more. )
15,000 PIC. ( Starting to forget it all. )
The two most dangerous things for pilots:
1) "I thought", instead of "I know."
2) Surprisingly, forgetting to fly the airplane.
The trouble with fast airplanes is that they don't do slow real well.
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
The small piston aircraft typically gets its cabin heat from a shroud around the exhaust pipe. Basically, it catches the heat off of the exhaust pipe and mixes it with outside ram air which in turn is routed to the cabin. CO is obviously a by-product of combustion, so it exits the engine through the exhaust pipes. All it takes is a small crack in the exhaust pipe to allow enough CO to mix with the cabin air supply and you have a recipe for CO poisoning.
It is a very wise thing to both a) carry a CO detector, preferably an electronic one, and b) have a mechanic perform an exhaust leak check the late summer/early fall before you get into the season of needing the cabin heat during flights.
Fly_Unity
Well-Known Member
The 08 Cirrus I fly has one and it gets very annoying sometimes. Once was sitting on the ramp behind a jet and caught some fumes, right after liftoff the Garmin 1000 Audio kept saying "WARNING WARNING", my passengers literally thought we was going down. Started back to the field and it finally went off.
