Splitting legs?
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Generally the captain does the first and then the captain and the FO alternate.
Some of my captains assign each leg a number and we randomly choose them (only works on a 2-leg/day trip!).
My last captain, to save me from the drudgery of doing every landing in ATL, chose to have us do two consecutive legs.
Some of my captains assign each leg a number and we randomly choose them (only works on a 2-leg/day trip!).
My last captain, to save me from the drudgery of doing every landing in ATL, chose to have us do two consecutive legs.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
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Ohhhh.........
That "splitting legs".
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That's what I said too.....
Ohhhh.........
That "splitting legs".
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That's what I said too.....
MDPilot
Well-Known Member
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Doug whats wrong with landing at ATL. I mean is it the fact that all the flights for Delta, ASA, and Airtran try to come in at the same time. You 100 flights on 2 runways in 10 min?. Gotta love one of the worlds busiest airports
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What's wrong? Well on the 88, a typical first day might have 3 legs, so captian lands at the first destination, say CHS. Now you get to land the next leg at ATL, 26R. Captain flys to IND for overnight. Next morning the start of 6 legs, and the first, third, and fifth are yours. Guess what? this day is IND-ATL-MCO-ATL-JAN-ATL-TYS. And your landings are??? ATL 26R, ATL26R, ATL27L Whooo!! Some variety!! This cycle continues for the third and fourth day of the trip too. And your trip next week. And your trip the next week. And all your trips next month. Your captains are getting a variety of flights to all sorts of places, and where are you landing?? ATL 26R. That is why it is sooooo refreshing for a captain to split the routine by doing two legs in a row or something like that.
Doug whats wrong with landing at ATL. I mean is it the fact that all the flights for Delta, ASA, and Airtran try to come in at the same time. You 100 flights on 2 runways in 10 min?. Gotta love one of the worlds busiest airports
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What's wrong? Well on the 88, a typical first day might have 3 legs, so captian lands at the first destination, say CHS. Now you get to land the next leg at ATL, 26R. Captain flys to IND for overnight. Next morning the start of 6 legs, and the first, third, and fifth are yours. Guess what? this day is IND-ATL-MCO-ATL-JAN-ATL-TYS. And your landings are??? ATL 26R, ATL26R, ATL27L Whooo!! Some variety!! This cycle continues for the third and fourth day of the trip too. And your trip next week. And your trip the next week. And all your trips next month. Your captains are getting a variety of flights to all sorts of places, and where are you landing?? ATL 26R. That is why it is sooooo refreshing for a captain to split the routine by doing two legs in a row or something like that.
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Doug whats wrong with landing at ATL. I mean is it the fact that all the flights for Delta, ASA, and Airtran try to come in at the same time. You 100 flights on 2 runways in 10 min?. Gotta love one of the worlds busiest airports
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Monotony!
Besides, I got over the "worlds biggest airport" thing my freshman year at Delta.
Plus when you're flying around at night and there are airplanes everywhere and haze (or clouds), ATC is so hellbent on giving you the visual.
"Delta 123 do you see the company -88, 2 o'clock 3500 feet?"
(looking around and see about six jets at 2 o'clock in and out of the haze).
"Traffic not in sight"
"Delta 123!!!! Do you see the company -88, o'clock, 2600 feet?"
"Traffic not in sight, it's kind of hazy"
"Holy crap! That one guy blew his turn on the localizer!"
"Delta 123!!!! Do you HAVE THE FIELD IN SIGHT?!"
"Yes, we've got the field..."
"Follow traffic at 12 o'clock cleared for the visual 160 knots until DEPOT".
Meanwhile, you're about 2.5 miles behind a 757 and you're getting a little tickle of his wake turbulence so you've got to cheat a little in order to stay safe.
I've seen too many guys get too cocky and call the wrong aircraft and end up getting in tight situations once they see the traffic that they should have seen.
Waaaay over the idea of ATL!
Doug whats wrong with landing at ATL. I mean is it the fact that all the flights for Delta, ASA, and Airtran try to come in at the same time. You 100 flights on 2 runways in 10 min?. Gotta love one of the worlds busiest airports
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Monotony!
Besides, I got over the "worlds biggest airport" thing my freshman year at Delta.
Plus when you're flying around at night and there are airplanes everywhere and haze (or clouds), ATC is so hellbent on giving you the visual.
"Delta 123 do you see the company -88, 2 o'clock 3500 feet?"
(looking around and see about six jets at 2 o'clock in and out of the haze).
"Traffic not in sight"
"Delta 123!!!! Do you see the company -88, o'clock, 2600 feet?"
"Traffic not in sight, it's kind of hazy"
"Holy crap! That one guy blew his turn on the localizer!"
"Delta 123!!!! Do you HAVE THE FIELD IN SIGHT?!"
"Yes, we've got the field..."
"Follow traffic at 12 o'clock cleared for the visual 160 knots until DEPOT".
Meanwhile, you're about 2.5 miles behind a 757 and you're getting a little tickle of his wake turbulence so you've got to cheat a little in order to stay safe.
I've seen too many guys get too cocky and call the wrong aircraft and end up getting in tight situations once they see the traffic that they should have seen.
Waaaay over the idea of ATL!
FlyChicaga
Vintage Restoration
We usually split down the middle, saying "ins or outs". Ins mean all MDW landings, outs mean all outstation landings. If it's a 3 or 4 day trip, we'll usually swap in and outs each day (like I'll do all ins Day 1, CPT does ins Day 2, etc.). Sometimes we'll do outstations swaps, which means we swap only at the outstations. It's breaks up the legs evenly, but you fly two in a row normally. A landing at MDW, then a landing at outstation, swap... etc. You get the idea.
davetheflyer
New Member
Usually the captain decides. Sometimes we'll do like Flychicaga and take ins or outs for a day or so at a time.
My favorite way to do it is to trade at outstations. This means that each of us flies two legs (from outstation to CVG, then to the other outstation).
My favorite way to do it is to trade at outstations. This means that each of us flies two legs (from outstation to CVG, then to the other outstation).
A300Capt
Freight Dawg
I usually ask the f/o which leg he/she wants to start the day off. I figure if they have to put up with my BS then they should at least get to fly the leg of their choosing.
If someone is brand new to the f/o seat or to the aircraft and it's our first pairing together, I'll look at a combination of things such as the weather, airport, day/night approach to landing and all around difficulty factor before deciding who flies what leg. Most of the time the new person is more than happy to take the easy leg and it's a little more peace of mind for me.
If someone is brand new to the f/o seat or to the aircraft and it's our first pairing together, I'll look at a combination of things such as the weather, airport, day/night approach to landing and all around difficulty factor before deciding who flies what leg. Most of the time the new person is more than happy to take the easy leg and it's a little more peace of mind for me.
Tim
New Member
You know Doug you gotta love the 5 and 7 push in ATL. I mean besides the normal domestic departures you now throw in the heavies going across the big pond. Adding about 50 more planes to deal with. I know on Supertug thats the worst time of the day to try to cross over to the hanger.
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Landing at the same airport over and over can get really old Especially when its 10,000 feet. I enjoy doing the approaches into DCA, or landing on one of the "express" runways in PHL. And its also nice to have that 10,000 foot runway to land on after a long day. Variety is good!
