Spirit Airlines Strike Update

jhugz is not a Spirit pilot. I don't know what you are talking about!

On the other hand, I put my career on the line and walked. Talk to me, please, not someone not connected to our airline.
 
jhugz is not a Spirit pilot. I don't know what you are talking about!

On the other hand, I put my career on the line and walked. Talk to me, please, not someone not connected to our airline.

Lost...you are correct and I stand corrected in referring to jhugz as a Spirit pilot.

That said, I stand by my original premise that no one, no pilot group and especially no one fronting on the boards for ALPA National should be out here professing specific knowledge they have about how the NMB will react to a negative vote on your TA.

This is your decision. To have other pilot groups out here telling you how to vote would be wrong. For ALPA National officers and members of the legal department (who are in hot water yet again with the NMB) to have a fellow ALPA pilot who is a rep at another airline, snooping for naysayers or preaching doomsday if you don't ratify the TA is reprehensible.
 
Spirit pilots, please keep in in mind that Mr. 727to7400 has ulterior motives and does not have the best interests of the Spirit pilots in mind. He is but a lapdog for the Teamsters Airline Division, and he trolls the internet searching for opportunities to try to discredit ALPA. What is best for the Spirit pilots means nothing to him. Please do what you think is right for your own pilot group, and do so with all of the facts.
 
A lot was revealed in the road show. There is so much misinformation about the TA around the Internet because people are weighing in who don't know the current contract to compare and contrast, don't know the history, don't know what the pilots voted in the Wilson poll as their priorities and don't understand math or law and just spout off.

I listened to someone spout off about how he needed his 150% overtime because he counted on it to ensure that, as a senior captain, he made $200,000 to support the building costs of $500,000 on his house (plus the cost of the land, etc). He said he didn't care that, by doing that, he was keeping furloughed pilots on the street. It's all about him. They explained that, with the new contract, people would not have to fly overtime to make more money. He didn't care. He wanted more money plus the overtime. That's not going to happen without giving something else up.

We also talked about what would happen if there was a PEB (apparently there was so much consumer pressure plus constituent pressure on Congress that this piqued the interest of the White House due to an airline being shut down completely)--that it would be an arbitrated contract based on industry standards. Since, no one else has mandatory 4 days off, the #1 desire to keep in the Wilson poll would go away. We'd lose our QOL that we covet as a pilot group.

And if we strike again, the company is free to impose Contract 9000 which eliminates all scope whatsoever amongst all the other horrific things they wanted to impose. What do you think Franke would do? Do you think he will play nice?
 
Glad you guys are getting the truth at the road shows. Good luck with the vote.

I don't know. I brought my wife who is an expert on compensation and benefits--she had to educate them as to how to present it going forward. They were very willing to listen and welcoming the offer of assistance.

We will keep pushing to put forth the truth!
 
I don't know. I brought my wife who is an expert on compensation and benefits--she had to educate them as to how to present it going forward. They were very willing to listen and welcoming the offer of assistance.

We will keep pushing to put forth the truth!

I just finished reading the latest info from the R & I Department about all of the changes to health care plans over the next few years, and I can certainly understand why guys are finding it difficult to explain and understand! Complicated stuff.
 
Spirit pilots, please keep in in mind that Mr. 727to7400 has ulterior motives and does not have the best interests of the Spirit pilots in mind. He is but a lapdog for the Teamsters Airline Division

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but in the interest of fairness, and applying your logic, how would you characterize yourself?
 
I just finished reading the latest info from the R & I Department about all of the changes to health care plans over the next few years, and I can certainly understand why guys are finding it difficult to explain and understand! Complicated stuff.


Yes, it's very complicated. She keeps on top of it because she has to for her job plus she teaches at Villanova and Philadelphia University. So she feels compelled to know it cold. She often politely corrects the brokers, lawyers and other "experts" because they are not up to date.
 
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