Spinning a G1000?

minitour

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Anyone ever spun a G1000 equipped aircraft? Looking for options for a CFI applicant for spin training. Tough on the avionics?

-mini
 
Anyone ever spun a G1000 equipped aircraft? Looking for options for a CFI applicant for spin training. Tough on the avionics?

-mini
done it, not by choice, didn't have any noticeable effects on the G1000

the GMU should be able to correct any AHRS fubaring that goes on
 
I've done it once or twice, a long time ago. I don't remember anything terrible happening.

The G1000 doesn't have any moving parts, so I can't think of any components that spinning would be hard on.

Also, for what it's worth, I believe the new T-38 military trainers have glass cockpits and obviously those go through more rigorous aerobatics than a simple spin. I think glass cockpits are reasonably aerobatic-friendly in general.

You should be fine.
 
Standby AI?
Yeah, I'm very concerned with tumbling gyros. I don't want to hose the next guy that decides to take it up in low-ish IFR because I was doing spin training in it. Nor do I want to cause the owner any unnecessary mx bills.

-mini
 
I've done it once or twice, a long time ago. I don't remember anything terrible happening.

The G1000 doesn't have any moving parts, so I can't think of any components that spinning would be hard on.

Also, for what it's worth, I believe the new T-38 military trainers have glass cockpits and obviously those go through more rigorous aerobatics than a simple spin. I think glass cockpits are reasonably aerobatic-friendly in general.

You should be fine.

You don't want to spin a -38! :) T-6 you mean?
 
Yeah, I'm very concerned with tumbling gyros. I don't want to hose the next guy that decides to take it up in low-ish IFR because I was doing spin training in it. Nor do I want to cause the owner any unnecessary mx bills.

-mini

I don't think it would add any significant wear to the standby AI. If you were spinning the plane on every flight for months in a row, that might cause problems, but not a couple of training flights for a CFI applicant.

Now for some thread creep...does anyone know why specifically tumbling is hard on gyro instruments? Everyone says it is, but I've never been told exactly what wears out and why. I'm starting to wonder if this idea is similar to shock cooling.
 
Now for some thread creep...does anyone know why specifically tumbling is hard on gyro instruments? Everyone says it is, but I've never been told exactly what wears out and why. I'm starting to wonder if this idea is similar to shock cooling.
I don't know why, but having seen several gyros go nuts after being used for spin trainers...I prefer to take all necessary precautions.

-mini
 
You don't want to spin a -38! :) T-6 you mean?

I said "rigorous aerobatics" but that doesn't necessarily mean spins ;)

Of course now that you mention it, I think the Texan IIs have glass cockpits as well, don't they?
 
I said "rigorous aerobatics" but that doesn't necessarily mean spins ;)

Of course now that you mention it, I think the Texan IIs have glass cockpits as well, don't they?

Believe so. I was a T-37 guy though. No glass anything, not even the basic-T of instruments....
 
I flew a G1000 172 back a few years ago and went backwards flying in slowflight with a big headwind and the system freaked out and I had to recycle the avionics to see anything.
 
Please tell me you're joking.

-mini

No, that's the truth, I've done the same thing.

I believe it happens because the system is continually cross checking itself. It crosschecks heading versus ground track, airspeed versus groundspeed, altimeter versus GPS altitude, etc. to help determine if any individual components have failed. This is actually a safety feature. The moment it detects a problem with a component it removes it from the display and places a red X through that area of the screen. This is so a pilot won't get erroneous information that can become distracting in the same way gyros slowly spin down after a vacuum failure.

When it happened to me, I didn't have to reboot it though. It fixed itself as soon as I started moving forward again.
 
Yeah, I'm very concerned with tumbling gyros. I don't want to hose the next guy that decides to take it up in low-ish IFR because I was doing spin training in it. Nor do I want to cause the owner any unnecessary mx bills.

-mini

That is about the only thing a spin is rough on and even then that isn't nearly as bad as high g-load turns. A spin doesn't put much force on an aircraft at all, many newer gyros won't even tumble when spun. But take that plane and put it in a 4G turn a few laps around and watch them tumble like nobodies business.

As for the g1000, like was previously said, no moving parts so don't worry yourself.
 
In the second clip posted by PeterPilot, it looks like the horizon display got messed up in the second turn. The plane was still in the spin, but the display looked like it was just banking left/right.
 
That is about the only thing a spin is rough on and even then that isn't nearly as bad as high g-load turns. A spin doesn't put much force on an aircraft at all, many newer gyros won't even tumble when spun. But take that plane and put it in a 4G turn a few laps around and watch them tumble like nobodies business.

As for the g1000, like was previously said, no moving parts so don't worry yourself.
What are you pulling 4Gs in?
 
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