Speaking of no APU's (To Seggy)

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derg

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Does your company allow you to do single-engine turns where you can leave an engine and a AC running?
 
Who does Seggy work for?

Skywest allows it. We did it a couple weeks ago in butt-freaking-cold-Fargo with no APU. Kept the cabin toasty warm for the turn!
 
I'm not Seggy, but we did it on the Saab ALL the time.

Here, we never do it. We either have an APU, or ask for an air cart. Our stations are pretty good about having ground equipment most of the time.
 
Used to do that on the ATR & Saab at Eagle. Not uncommon, especially if we were in a hurry.
 
SkyWChris said:
Who does Seggy work for?

Skywest allows it. We did it a couple weeks ago in butt-freaking-cold-Fargo with no APU. Kept the cabin toasty warm for the turn!
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Wussie. Btw, it was warm two weeks ago. Heck, it's warm right now at 25 degrees.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Does your company allow you to do single-engine turns where you can leave an engine and a AC running?
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Absolutely. BUT with that said, they are pretty rare. It depends a lot on the station. We can't do single engine turns in LGA, BOS, ACK, SYR, and others. Usually the single engine turns are done done at the smaller outstations, depending on passenger load and if we need to deice.

At the bigger airports we can sometimes get an air cart, put the air hose in the cargo hold and that heats or cools the aircraft pretty nicely. If we know we have a long layover and will be on the ground a while we heat the plane about 15 minutes prior till we land. What was the policy at Skyway?

I'll tell you I LOVE flying this plane. I do feel sorry for the pax though.
 
SkyWChris said:
Who does Seggy work for?

Skywest allows it. We did it a couple weeks ago in butt-freaking-cold-Fargo with no APU. Kept the cabin toasty warm for the turn!
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So do you not have to get the fire department out there while fueling? It would be considered a Hot Fuel.
 
I think different airports have different rules on that... I've done it a handful of times over the years; no fire trucks ever showed up.
 
I'm telling you, if Beech built commercial airliners, they'd give Boeing a run for their money. The 1900 was, by far, the funnest plane I've ever flown.

We couldn't do single-engine turns at all. If it was 35C on in the aircraft or -10C, it didn't matter. At least back when I was there.

I don't recall ever having ground air either.
 
Doug Taylor said:
I'm telling you, if Beech built commercial airliners, they'd give Boeing a run for their money. The 1900 was, by far, the funnest plane I've ever flown.

We couldn't do single-engine turns at all. If it was 35C on in the aircraft or -10C, it didn't matter. At least back when I was there.

I don't recall ever having ground air either.
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Yeah the ground air is not that widely available, but you can get it. We usually put the hose in the cargo hold, close the door and keep it toasty or cool till its time to leave. Got to ask the ground crew nicely though.

Why didn't they allow single engine turns?
 
Comair does allow it (hot refuel), however our airport does not typically.

The fuelers (city employees) will do it if there is no airstart around, however they have two. I have never seen it done here for any airline.

We did have one airplane with the apu inop but they tankered the fuel in and that one stayed on for the turn.

BTW it was -20C this morning in BGR. Our Pinnacle RON airplane had TWO flat tyres this morning (same main gear). They think the beads broke because of the cold and the air contracting, and the tyres not able to support the weight. Plane did not leave until almost 4pm (8 hours late). They had to fly 2 tyres and mechanics from Memphis in a citation to get it fixed.
 
Observed a flight today on the Saab where we did a single engine turn at an outstation. Glad I got the chance to see the checklist/flows in action before I hit the sim this week. :)
 
OldTownPilot said:
BTW it was -20C this morning in BGR. Our Pinnacle RON airplane had TWO flat tyres this morning (same main gear). They think the beads broke because of the cold and the air contracting, and the tyres not able to support the weight. Plane did not leave until almost 4pm (8 hours late). They had to fly 2 tyres and mechanics from Memphis in a citation to get it fixed.
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HAHA, how cool are we! we have our own citation II! a crappy contract, but the Emergency response citation is priceless. it makes it all worth it. ;)
 
jonnyb said:
You guys are freakin' nuts!:D
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Well it was around 50 on Christmas Eve.

But I think of it like this, I don't wear coats if it is 20 or above. Just a sweatshirt. So by the time it is 40-50 in the spring time, it's T-shirt weather! It's all about climatizing!
 
OldTownPilot said:
Comair does allow it (hot refuel), however our airport does not typically.

The fuelers (city employees) will do it if there is no airstart around, however they have two. I have never seen it done here for any airline.

We did have one airplane with the apu inop but they tankered the fuel in and that one stayed on for the turn.

BTW it was -20C this morning in BGR. Our Pinnacle RON airplane had TWO flat tyres this morning (same main gear). They think the beads broke because of the cold and the air contracting, and the tyres not able to support the weight. Plane did not leave until almost 4pm (8 hours late). They had to fly 2 tyres and mechanics from Memphis in a citation to get it fixed.
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Nothing personal but........tyres....is spelled "tires."

Sorry, I saw it once and thought it was a joke.....but then I continued to read and realized...NOPE...no joke.
 
Except in Britain, I think. After all, it's their language!
 
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