Speaking of jumpseating stuff...

bike21

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How many of you folks always stop by and say hello up front when you have a seat in the back (non-rev). I have a bit of pet peeve for those who do not say hello. I will post a good story of why I ALWAYS say hello these days, once the poll gets going.

For this poll, deadheads (positive space) do not count.
 
Depends on how the pass is issued. For CAL, if you list as a JS, you get a boarding pass with a seat, if there are seats in the back. If that's the case, I still consider myself jumpseating, and therefore ask for a ride. I've only had 1 captain give me crap about it. He also saw my physique and started making jokes about me being in the cockpit.

If I'm on an SA pass, then no. I just take my seat and get ready to do my hand motions along with Larry's speech during the video (CAL and XJT guys know what I mean).
 
It depends on how busy they are. If they look like they're not that busy, I'll go up and say hi, ask if it is ok that I ride, and thank them. If they are busy I do all of that with the head F/A and head to my seat.
 
ERfly said:
If I'm on an SA pass, then no. I just take my seat and get ready to do my hand motions along with Larry's speech during the video (CAL and XJT guys know what I mean).
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I used to get ready for the "like serving meals at mealtime..." in the Larry speech. The good 'ol days.
 
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Your thread title and poll ask two different things. Check in when jumpseating (even if given a seat in back), yes. Check in whe non-reving, no. The reason is, if you are jumpseating, the pax count on the paperwork shows you as a jumpseater, even though you are sitting in the back.
 
Thanks for the answers all!

I always say hello, even if it is a real quick 'hi' no matter if I am truly jumpseating or pass travel/ZED. I think most will agree that it is common decency to say hello and thank the crew up front for the ride.

Here is another reason I always say hello...I was coming home from training way back when out of SLC on United mainline. As usual I was the last one down right before they were closing the door and we were heading for a late departure at the current rate. So I thought to myself, "better say hello on the way out and just get to my seat." Well, a few minutes later the FO comes out with the manifest in hand and starts saying my last name. Ok... he says, "make sure you check in with the Captain next time." Wow! So I said no problem and offered an explanation later, which the Captain seemed to accept. This was the first and last time I have not said hello to the crew.

So from now on even when things are rushed, I will at least present myself at the cockpit door and ensure they know I am there and I appreciate the ride :) Or tell the purser/lead FA to make sure I said hello if I can't get to the cockpit quickly enough.

Now I wish all mainline folks would return us the favor. Most do, but some act like they own the plane when they get on :banghead:
 
If you are riding as an OMC (jumpseating) on United then you always need to ask for a ride from the captain. If you list yourself and get on the flight using your pass privileges then you do not need to ask for a ride. On United Express and Delta I always list myself if I know I can get on so I don't have to bother the crew.
 
I had to list on GoJets (unfortunately, last flight of the day) trying to get home one time, going to IAD...I was listed as a non-rev, had a seat in the back, and in uniform. Like I always do, I went up front just to check in-say hi, let them know I'm back there. Esp. if I'm in uniform.

I introduce myself to the captain, my name, who I'm with, etc etc, and then he starts to give me a hard time about how I don't need to check in with him since I have a seat in the back, blah blah blah. I couldn't believe it, he started criticizing me for, what I thought, was doing the right thing! I just say "ok" and turn to walk out. As I'm walking out, I hear him start to talk to the FO about how he never checks in when he's got a seat in the back...I just walked away at that point and laughed...no wonder everyone hates these guys...
 
If I have a guy on a vacation pass in the back, I don't give a crap if he says hello or not.

Jumpseaters should always present themselves out of respect.
 
I think there is still some confusion here. When you use a jumpseat authorization for ANY seat on the aircraft, check in with the captain or FO before proceeding to your seat as it is the captain that allows or disallows the use of that travel authority. When you are using a non-rev pass, ID90 or anything other than a jumpseat request form, it is not necessary to check in with the crew as the captain doesn't get involved in non revenue passes.

The only time you would need to check in with the crew if you were traveling as a non-rev would be if you were an FFDO and were armed. I personally like to let the lead Flight Attendant know that I am a commuting pilot just in case he or she might need some assistance during the flight. They might also toss you a free headset and perhaps a free drink or two as well.
 
It's a mixed deal. If it's really busy and I'm late I don't say hi - just a quick thank you upon exit, if I see them. If there are a lot of jumpseaters I'll say hi (given time), but I notice that most apparently don't.
 
bike21 said:
Here is another reason I always say hello...I was coming home from training way back when out of SLC on United mainline. As usual I was the last one down right before they were closing the door and we were heading for a late departure at the current rate. So I thought to myself, "better say hello on the way out and just get to my seat." Well, a few minutes later the FO comes out with the manifest in hand and starts saying my last name. Ok... he says, "make sure you check in with the Captain next time." Wow! So I said no problem and offered an explanation later, which the Captain seemed to accept. This was the first and last time I have not said hello to the crew.
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Must be a mainline United thing. I was non-revving once on a mainline flight (NOT jumpseating, listed online had a seat and all that jazz) and went to go say hey to the crew and the Captain proceeded to tear into me about how I needed to come and introduce myelf and humbly request a seat in the back. At that point I said I was trying to be nice, I'm a regular non-rev and I'll go take my seat now thanks and left. I was so pissed. I was being nice and said hello and proceeded to get a lecture about it. I now try to avoid UA flights to the max extent possible. Some other inceidents as wellfor me and friends of mine. That run-in seems to be the norm and not the exception. Shame. I guess that's what you get for trying to be a nice guy sometimes...
 
Rocketman99 said:
Must be a mainline United thing. I was non-revving once on a mainline flight (NOT jumpseating, listed online had a seat and all that jazz) and went to go say hey to the crew and the Captain proceeded to tear into me about how I needed to come and introduce myelf and humbly request a seat in the back. At that point I said I was trying to be nice, I'm a regular non-rev and I'll go take my seat now thanks and left. I was so pissed. I was being nice and said hello and proceeded to get a lecture about it. I now try to avoid UA flights to the max extent possible. Some other inceidents as wellfor me and friends of mine. That run-in seems to be the norm and not the exception. Shame. I guess that's what you get for trying to be a nice guy sometimes...
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Well you know the saying:
"No good deed goes unpunished."

I haven't ventured into the world of pass travel yet. Jumpseating, yes, I'll ask the captain's permission. If I buy a pass, then I'll just go take my seat. If it's obvious, I'll say hi but otherwise I'll feel no obligation to bother the flight crew.
 
"At least one airline (Horizon) prefers you take your seat and thank the crew on your way out at your destination"

I'm not sure about that anymore. That was mentioned on the back of the jumpseat form that USED to be used, but not anymore. Now, you just get a boarding pass with a seat in the back or 1W, which is the jumpseat.

I'd like to see chapter and verse from the QX FOM to see what guidance the pilots have on that.

Personally, I like not having to BS with the crew just before departure if I have an assigned seat in the back. One would assume they know I'm back there from their paperwork.
 
Try working for a 135 company that most people haven't heard of. I work for Airnet, and you should see the looks I get from most crews when I tell them that. Either they've heard a lot about us or have never heard a word about us. We do have agreements with most airlines but I gotta give props to SWA and NWA because they are virtually hassle free. (to our company anyway) For you guys looking for a ride don't forget about us, we love jumpseaters. A Free ride on a Lear is pretty fun and you can wear shorts and and sneakers if you want. Southwest and CHQ guys ride all the time
 
If I'm a "normal" non-rev (not jumpseating) then I don't say anything to the crew, and I don't expect non-reving pilots to say anything to me (unless they're jumpseating) when I'm flying.

I've jumpseated on mainline United a lot, and the crews have always been friendly and have thanked me for checking in with them.
 
We're non-CASS, but I always check in up front as a jumpseater... especially in uniform.

calcapt said:
The only time you would need to check in with the crew if you were traveling as a non-rev would be if you were an FFDO and were armed. I personally like to let the lead Flight Attendant know that I am a commuting pilot just in case he or she might need some assistance during the flight. They might also toss you a free headset and perhaps a free drink or two as well.
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Umm... call me crazy, but I thought you couldn't drink as an armed FFDO?! :drool:
 
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