Southwest has a new look (pilots)

@Minuteman, Really? An airline pilot has to look like Walter Cronkite to be taken seriously? I suppose an FA's safety message in clever rap that holds the attention of the PAX is nevertheless degrading to the aviation industry because it's not serious enough. Come on. PAX who have just gone through the degradation of the TSA appreciate a little levity. And the whole program is aimed at drawing kids into imagining a career in aviation. Planes won't fall out of the sky even if we lighten up a bit, and maybe we might just inject a little fun back into flying. :grin:
 
Well I happen to like it and I like the way Southwest gets children involved. I would wear it. It's a good thing and it's one of the many things that Southwest does right.

This airline came from nothing, fought for everything they have and became the largest domestic airline in the US because they think outside of the box. That was no accident.

The Southwest tie has become a cultural icon and it is part of the airlines heritage of doing things different that their old stodgy airline competitors do.

With that being said, there are millions of passengers that think there are only two airlines out there. Southwest and Jet Blue.

One reason for that is because of things like this tie promotion.

Joe
 
How cool is that? Not a big fan of WN(used to be until the early 2000s, but they're a different company now) but kudos to them for what they do with the Adopt-a-pilot program. I'd totally rock it.

I like it way better than those American flag ties.
 
Cav said:
Pilots should care how pilots look in public because it directly impacts how we are perceived as professionals. If we dress ourselves like idiots it undoubtedly impacts that perception both in the eyes of the public and how we view our own self worth. Worse yet, if we let our employers, managers, etc dress us up to look like idiots it's a very clear statement of how they view us. You can say all you want that it doesn't matter and that I'd "wear a T shirt if my employer did XYZ" but you're kidding yourself. Our society has many stereotypes about how professionals dress. Right or wrong those expectations exist. Bankers and attorneys largely wear suits...or at the very least wear suits when in important publicly viewed events. Judges wear robes. Physicians wear lab coats. The list goes on. Pilots wearing stupid ties is like having Hawaiian Shirt Fridays as your standard dress code. Who is going to take you seriously? Certainly not me.

If you want to wear stupid ties and dress like a slob, please don't start a conversation with me about long term degradation of Captain's authority or the pay checks of yesteryear. I'm not naive enough to believe that it's not all related. If you want to be treated like a professional you better look like one in addition to acting like one because like it or not people have largely already made up their mind about your professionalism long before they've boarded your flight. They've already seen you in the gate area.
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Maybe I should have said "I don't mind a less formal uniform." Something more functional and comfortable like cargo pants, driving shoes, and a polo shirt is acceptable to me.
 
I'm all for whimsy in life - there isn't enough of it. The problem lies in the fact that my whimsy is someone else's bah,humbug.

It's the eye of the beholder, gang, and an occasional diversion beyond societal norms & expectations may be OK, but some freaking dude will carry it too far.

Flight crew got up like the band KISS (and NOT on Halloween). Green beer outside March 17th. Bow ties that come with a battery. CA who gives you his resume on the PA, from first solo through mile-high club, with details, then introduces the lead FA for a bow.

Plus, these actions live next to other parts of life. A cemetery joke is less funny to someone who's just buried a loved one.

The needle moves, but it does so pretty slowly.
 
One of my colleagues wears a cravat to work. Another once turned up with a pair of yachting waterproofs on (it was raining pretty badly).
 
Cav said:
Pilots should care how pilots look in public because it directly impacts how we are perceived as professionals. If we dress ourselves like idiots it undoubtedly impacts that perception both in the eyes of the public and how we view our own self worth. Worse yet, if we let our employers, managers, etc dress us up to look like idiots it's a very clear statement of how they view us. You can say all you want that it doesn't matter and that I'd "wear a T shirt if my employer did XYZ" but you're kidding yourself. Our society has many stereotypes about how professionals dress. Right or wrong those expectations exist. Bankers and attorneys largely wear suits...or at the very least wear suits when in important publicly viewed events. Judges wear robes. Physicians wear lab coats. The list goes on. Pilots wearing stupid ties is like having Hawaiian Shirt Fridays as your standard dress code. Who is going to take you seriously? Certainly not me.

If you want to wear stupid ties and dress like a slob, please don't start a conversation with me about long term degradation of Captain's authority or the pay checks of yesteryear. I'm not naive enough to believe that it's not all related. If you want to be treated like a professional you better look like one in addition to acting like one because like it or not people have largely already made up their mind about your professionalism long before they've boarded your flight. They've already seen you in the gate area.
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"Now put your hat on and go straighten things out in back!" -sips coffee-

;)

(I agree.)
 
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