Southwest buys Airtran
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HeyEng
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Not going to argue here. I think it's PFT and NO ONE is going to change my mind. Perhaps you pay Gulfstream academy for your right seat time to make sure you can operate in right seat. The pre-req should be an ATP, then they *should* be able to pass the TRAINING that is PROVIDED by the airline. Just sayin'. Ah...I said I wasn't going to argue...damn you Waco!!!
WacoFan
Bigly
Oh,not trying to argue. I think Gulfstream was always PFJ. PFT would be if SWA didn't pay during training, AND charged you for the full costs of training and didn't put you on the payroll until IOE was completed. Those are my basic understandings of the two - I may be wrong.
I just have a hard time seeing the type as PFT - using that logic, so is a college degree - because both are required for the job. SWA simply says to the world "We are going to hire the most qualified applicant that fits are requirements, which include a 737 type".
adk
Steals Hotel Toilet Paper
How is it any different from a corporate gig requiring a Lear type to get hired to fly their Lear?
Duck_Twacy
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I hope this is the case. For example, SWA has avoided Richmond like the plague, and if AirTran pulls out on the heels of B6, it'll be a devastating blow to leisure travel, and make it hard to attract new businesses. Was just reading an article about how Huntsville - highest fares in the country - struggled to get/keep AirTran. Communities like that and Richmond could suffer as a result of this.
I flew AirTran to ICT this spring and the captain played the harmonica during his pre-departure cabin announcement. It was awesome and totally SWA-esque. Pretty sure he was a Blue Angel from the cadence in his voice when he made announcements.
rd757
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I agree with Waco, if SWA is PFT (which I don't believe it is), then every job opportunity posted in our Jobs section that requires a type would be then be considered PFT, since you can buy your own GIV type rating (or whatever it requires).
EDIT: adk, I didn't see your post prior to writing this one. So I'll just say mine is a +1 to your thought.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
I would have an easier time agreeing with you here if Southwest required newhires to not only be typed but also to have 500 or 1000 hours in the 737 as a crewmember. Let's face it, a monkey can pass a checkride and I think it is disappointing that so many people are willing to plunk down $8500 in order to obtain a type-rating (lottery ticket?) and a CHANCE that they may be employed there?!
I agree, at least with these individuals, that it amounts to a PFT requirement. I am typed in the 737 and have about 1000 hours flying it in line operations -- so I may be biased.
All this being said, I admire SWA and would feel privileged for the opportunity to work there.
JoelT
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That guy is an Eastern scab that no one likes. He has screwed over thousands of pilots.
Also, Airtran management are all former Lorenzo guys. They are very anti-labor and rule with an iron fist. Morale is extremely low over there.
Hootie
Old Skool
Don't beat yourself up. It is ALL luck. Nobody knows nothing as far as how their career progression will go.
A150K
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Well let's hope they end up at SWA...Good for them if they do though...
I rode Airtran to ATL last summer and I think I had the same CA.
It was a 0600 departure, and the harmonica was REALLY REALLY REALLY annoying & waaaaaaaaaay too loud over the PA for that time of morning. I wanted to take that harmonica and shove it somewhere very unpleasant.... :bandit:
WalterSobchak
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Wow look what goes on when you get up late. Did any one see this coming?
surreal1221
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Eww.