Southwest 906

More nitpicky stuff, but does saying “26,000 lbs” when it comes to fuel really mean anything to ATC when letting them know how much fuel is on board? I was always under the impression that hours and minutes is what they wanted.

Very small potatoes when looking at the bigger picture, I know.

A job well done by both ATC and the crew!
 
More nitpicky stuff, but does saying “26,000 lbs” when it comes to fuel really mean anything to ATC when letting them know how much fuel is on board?

It doesn't to ATC (they want it in minutes), but it is helpful to the ARFF guys, who want to know just how big of a boom they might be dealing with.
 
This one I found interesting....



Well I mean to be fair, we aren't talking about some 2 holer jabroni here......

haha that controller is awesome. I would have just vectored them back out to sea and told them to contact NY oceanic, "you're cleared back to Germany where this is apparently not an emergency"
 
More nitpicky stuff, but does saying “26,000 lbs” when it comes to fuel really mean anything to ATC when letting them know how much fuel is on board? I was always under the impression that hours and minutes is what they wanted.

Very small potatoes when looking at the bigger picture, I know.

A job well done by both ATC and the crew!

Depends on where you are and the type of emergency. If you’re taking to center and you can’t land right away we want to know how far/long you can fly. If you’re near an airport you can land at ARFF wants to know how much gas they’re going to deal with.
 
Well I mean to be fair, we aren't talking about some 2 holer jabroni here......

haha that controller is awesome. I would have just vectored them back out to sea and told them to contact NY oceanic, "you're cleared back to Germany where this is apparently not an emergency"

British airways got in trouble with the FAA for continuing to London after losing a engine out of LAX. It’s not an emergency. The FAA eventually backed off after BA said fine, we’ll land if we are in your airspace next time.
 
British airways got in trouble with the FAA for continuing to London after losing a engine out of LAX. It’s not an emergency. The FAA eventually backed off after BA said fine, we’ll land if we are in your airspace next time.
The problem with that too is they didn’t make it. Higher fuel burn and had to divert to MAN

 
Since no one else is saying it, I'll be the •. I was disappointed in ATC, at least the tower controller.

SWA 906 is about 10 mile final, the local controller clears SWA to land, advises there will be one, maybe two departures prior to landing.

Oh hell no! All we need is someone to abort on the runway, or worse. Sterilize the runway and keep it sterilized until the emergency aircraft has landed. An aircraft with a jammed elevator is not a good candidate for a go-around.
 
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Since no one else is saying it, I'll be the •. I was disappointed in ATC, at least the tower controller.

SWA 906 is about 10 mile final, the local controller clears SWA to land, advises there will be one, maybe two departures prior to landing.

Oh hell no! All we need is someone to abort on the runway, or worse. Sterilize the runway and keep it sterilized until the emergency aircraft has landed. An aircraft with a jammed elevator is not a good candidate for a go-around.
I can see it. The proactive response would have been, "Well if Southwest wants to land on the runway we are using for departures at an unknown time in the near future, we'd better get things turned around to keep this runway clear". The response I'd expect from most controllers I've met (not just from being aloof but quite the opposite in the "hell yeah push tin" kinda mindset they're usually in), however, is "Ok cool, so when Southwest is setting up for approach we'll launch what we got and get him down" then continue ops normal until the SWA landing. Which is what I guess happened, lol. If you think SWA 906 being on a 10-mile final launching guys was bad, imagine an A340 with a hydraulic failure and no center gear gliding down with ATC running a dual departure squeeze play with 2 RJs to with the A340 on like a 1/2-3/4 mile final as they cross the landing runway LOL. AARF thought it was the NEXT arrival for that carrier with the failure, so no trucks were alerted anyway until ATC asked why they stopped on the active runway. Then the ground handler hastly brought out a tug with a mostly empty gas tank so it died blocking the whole backside of a terminal for 20 mins on the way in. So, you know, can't always count on that stuff.

Murikeh!
 
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