Son of A .......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skydog said:
I wonder, would you have that same attitude towards speed limits in Class B or C airspace? If not, then why do you have it in the car?

One thing I have noted in my lifetime is that the best pilots seem to be the worst drivers. Not due to lack of skill, but due to lack of caring. My very first flight instructor was a stickler for observing rules and limitations in the plane, and then would go tear-a$$ing around corners and hauling a$$ down back country roads, 20-25 mph over the limit. Granted he was a youngster, but what kind of message did that send to his students? A confused one at best.
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I don't see anything wrong with cornering fast, or driving down back roads over the speed limit. So long as you possess the proper skill to do so, as well as the presence of mind to recognize the proper place to do it and when to slow down. Yeah, there's the risk of getting at ticket, but if you're gona drive in such a manner you have to pay to play.
 
Where abouts did you get the ticket, I live out in Plano, TX and the Cops out here don't give any breaks when it comes to speeding....A while back I was doing 8 miles over at night, and I didn't pull over right away. I drove for about another mile to mile and a half into a 7/11, that's a well lit area....I don't think he liked that at all, he was pretty pissed, and still gave me a ticket, I think I paid about $120 and went to traffic school
 
Lets not forget that speeding in the air means going over 200kts in busy airspace and above 250 everywhere else. Something I'm not comfortable with. It's differeant than going 90-100 on the ground in a car. You're still breaking the rules, but the hazards are different.
 
Captain_Bob said:
Was it at night? The speed limit drops from 75 to 65 at night in Texas.

Bob
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No, middle of the day! On Thanksgiving! But, he let me off the hook (probably because it was Thanksgiving and he wondered why a Californian was driving through Texas on rural I-10 on Turkey Day :) )
 
Captain_Bob said:
Deferred adjudication...

Defensive driving...

Attorney...

There are lot's of way to keep it off of your record... I'd use them. It may be more expensive now... but it will be cheaper in the long run regarding insurance... and you won't have to worry about the question of the airlines wondering why you have too many speeding tickets.

Bob
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So I'm looking into this more and I think I will have to go to driving school and pay the fine. I did some reading on Deferred adjudication, and came across this website http://www.wipetheslateclean.com any take on this?

I got pulled over in Carrollton, Texas....and I am assuming that the fine will be $150, the cop handed me a paper that showed me how I can handle my ticket. Pay the fine, go to traffic school, Show up in Court, ...It showed Speed Over 1-11 mph $150 11-19 mph and so on. That's why I am assuming it will be $150 for the ticket
 
That website is regarding more "major" offenses... I wouldn't worry about it.

Texas has a great defferred adjudication system. I've personally used it at least 6 or 7 times since I was a teenager to now.

Nothing on my record... I know this for a fact... I ran a state and federal background check on myself prior to applying to the airlines. Probation is only typically 90 days. Just don't get another ticket in carrolton in that time... and you are golden.

You will have to pay the fine... but you won't have to sit for 8 hours in a classroom learning about DUI's all day.

DA is the way to go on this one, IMO.

bob
 
UAL747400 said:
I don't see anything wrong with cornering fast, or driving down back roads over the speed limit. So long as you possess the proper skill to do so, as well as the presence of mind to recognize the proper place to do it and when to slow down. Yeah, there's the risk of getting at ticket, but if you're gona drive in such a manner you have to pay to play.
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It's not a question of skill. It's a question of respect for the rules. And the questions still stands. Why would someone be so diligent about following the rules of the air, and yet so casually disregard the rules of the road.
 
You must think you're a hardass. . . you haven't even met me to know how much of a hardass I can be - in regards to regulations, rules, standards that must be met, etc.

I'm sure each of us have a certain bone in our closet. Mine just so happens to be a 78 in a 70, which was much much worse in the beginning.

I certainly would not suggest taking the high road on this one. You've made your point, I answered your question.
 
Captain_Bob said:
Deferred adjudication...Bob
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I called the court today to ask about Deferred adjudication, he said that I would have to pay $200 to the courts and then I would be put on probation for 6 months, as long as everything is good, then the ticket will be cleared.

So being that I am applying to the airlines, would I have to disclose this information to them, and tell them I am working this out with the courts and it's taken care of?

It sounds like if all goes well, it will be taken off my driving record, but not sure if it will show up on my background check.
 
It won't show on the your record... and it's officially not even on your record yet during the defferred adjudication process.

Basically all D.A. does is give the cities/counties a way to collect on the violations without making life miserable for you. They really don't care about your record/license/insurance, etc. They just want the revenue.

$50 extra is a good investment for not having it on your record and not having your insurance rates go up.

It's a win/win situation. Less paperwork and hassle for them... No points on your record for you.

UNLESS... you get another moving violation in that city within the probationary period... then it's definately a "Win" for the city... and a "Loss" for you. You'll end up paying additional court costs, plus the fine on the new ticket... plus both tickets will hit your record... and your insurance will of course skyrocket.

So... keep her slow and steady over the next 6 months (and beyond)... and you'll come out ahead... (minus the $200 fee) ;)

Bob
 
Captain_Bob said:
It won't show on the your record... and it's officially not even on your record yet during the defferred adjudication process.

Basically all D.A. does is give the cities/counties a way to collect on the violations without making life miserable for you. They really don't care about your record/license/insurance, etc. They just want the revenue.

$50 extra is a good investment for not having it on your record and not having your insurance rates go up.

It's a win/win situation. Less paperwork and hassle for them... No points on your record for you.

UNLESS... you get another moving violation in that city within the probationary period... then it's definately a "Win" for the city... and a "Loss" for you. You'll end up paying additional court costs, plus the fine on the new ticket... plus both tickets will hit your record... and your insurance will of course skyrocket.

So... keep her slow and steady over the next 6 months (and beyond)... and you'll come out ahead... (minus the $200 fee) ;)

Bob
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Captain Bob thanks for all your help with this, I'll keep 'er right at the speed limit.

A couple days ago, I met the recruiter for American Eagle and I recvd an email and a call today, to have me fill out of the application @ americaneaglecareers.com.....and lo' and behold I came across this questions....

2. Have you ever served probation, pretrial diversion or deferred adjudication for any criminal offense?
Yes No
If yes, please indicate the offense, date, city, and state. **
** YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO ANSWER IF PROHIBITED BY APPLICABLE STATE LAW

It states for 'any criminial offense.....so I can answer no correct? I know that I'm beating this to death, .....thanks again Captain Bob
 
Most states have "de-criminalized" minor traffic violations... unless they are for major issues like 20+ over or associated with a DUI or possibly even construction/school zone offenses.

I believe your's falls into the "minor traffic violation" category which is a Class C misdemeanor and thus NOT a criminal offense... but... just for the heck of it... contact one of the local traffic attorneys or the county courthouse and just ask the question.

Either way... Good luck on your interview!!

Bob
 
Thanks for the quick response.....I'll have to call in the AM.....

I went to the Air Inc Convention here in Dallas and met AE, I also am looking at Express Jet, but I guess Express doesn't attend those functions. I really would like to stay in the Dallas area, ....or Texas area....I know that I'll be commuting for the first couple months, but doesn't sound too bad.

You still in the Dallas Area?
 
UAL747400 said:
Lets not forget that speeding in the air means going over 200kts in busy airspace and above 250 everywhere else. Something I'm not comfortable with. It's differeant than going 90-100 on the ground in a car. You're still breaking the rules, but the hazards are different.
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I've gone faster then normal a few times... but I highly doubt I would be breaking any laws in the skies... imo going 270 in 250 is the same thing is braking into an airspace, but thats just me... up there, no tolerance for mistakes
 
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