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Delta Plans LaGuardia Expansion in Slot Swap
By Mary Jane Credeur and Mary Schlangenstein - May 23, 2011
Delta Air Lines Inc. (DAL) agreed to acquire takeoff and landing rights from US Airways Group Inc. (LCC) to expand at New York’s LaGuardia Airport in the nation’s busiest aviation market.

Delta will take over 132 pairs of LaGuardia takeoff and landing slots held by US Airways, which will get 42 pairs of slots at Washington’s Reagan airport in exchange, the two carriers said today in a statement. US Airways also will receive rights to fly to Sao Paulo and $66.5 million in cash.

The move would allow Atlanta-based Delta to boost its share in New York, where no airline has a dominant position, while US Airways focuses on growth in the nation’s capital. Today’s accord replaces one that Delta and Tempe, Arizona-based US Airways unveiled in 2009, only to have regulators balk.

“With this agreement, Delta will enhance competition in New York, which is already one of the most competitive aviation markets in the world, by expanding the passenger capacity at LaGuardia by as many as 4 million seats annually without increasing congestion,” Delta Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson said in the statement.

To contact the reporters on this story: Mary Jane Credeur in Atlanta at mcredeur@bloomberg.net; Mary Schlangenstein in Dallas at maryc.s@bloomberg.net;

To contact the editor responsible for this story: Ed Dufner at edufner@bloomberg.net.
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As far as Airways goes, on the mainline side, they already closed LGA a while back. Express... Well, PDT, AWAC and CJC (and I guess Mesaba now) have bases there. PDT's been drawing down LGA for a while as flying shifted to Colgan and AWAC. Who knows how the contract ops will move stuff around. In DC the mainline base has grown slightly over the last few years. AWAC has a base there but that's it as far as express goes. (well, Republic has a base, but don't tell them their express... I keed... I keed). DC has only started to not frown on props coming in again in the last year or so. I'd guess most of the increase in flying at DC will be given to Mainline and AWAC.
 
BobDDuck said:
As far as Airways goes, on the mainline side, they already closed LGA a while back. Express... Well, PDT, AWAC and CJC (and I guess Mesaba now) have bases there. PDT's been drawing down LGA for a while as flying shifted to Colgan and AWAC. Who knows how the contract ops will move stuff around. In DC the mainline base has grown slightly over the last few years. AWAC has a base there but that's it as far as express goes. (well, Republic has a base, but don't tell them their express... I keed... I keed). DC has only started to not frown on props coming in again in the last year or so. I'd guess most of the increase in flying at DC will be given to Mainline and AWAC.
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I have a friend who was doing an intership with Delta scheduling and marketing department when this was announced in 2009. He said that everyone at Delta HQ was just blown away that Parker and Kirby were even considering this. 132 primetime NYC slots for 42 mid-day slots at DCA? Anderson felt like he had won the lottery, according to my friend. Then again-Anderson knows how to run an airline.

I am not privy to Airways' passenger information from LGA - and I know Kirby says they haven't made money in LGA in awhile, but maybe operating a domestic hub would be smart. Maybe do some FL flying from there. Delta operated flights to the south, Bahamas, and Bermuda. Airways uses LGA to feed it's hubs. It's just a VERY stupid setup.

Sorry to see all the nice PDT people in LGA lose their jobs.
 
SmitteyB said:
I have a friend who was doing an intership with Delta scheduling and marketing department when this was announced in 2009. He said that everyone at Delta HQ was just blown away that Parker and Kirby were even considering this. 132 primetime NYC slots for 42 mid-day slots at DCA? Anderson felt like he had won the lottery, according to my friend. Then again-Anderson knows how to run an airline.

I am not privy to Airways' passenger information from LGA - and I know Kirby says they haven't made money in LGA in awhile, but maybe operating a domestic hub would be smart. Maybe do some FL flying from there. Delta operated flights to the south, Bahamas, and Bermuda. Airways uses LGA to feed it's hubs. It's just a VERY stupid setup.

Sorry to see all the nice PDT people in LGA lose their jobs.
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Yeah, I don't get being the only "legacy" to NOT have a hub in one of the largest travel markets in the country, but I'm not privvy to the details either. What is the story behind the halo rule that, according to both Kirby and Parker in crew news, has cramped Airways' style? Doesn't that expire at some point?

Wonder how long it will be until we get the email about LGA closing. Saw our CP in LGA today too, shoulda put two and two together....he never leaves Philly....
 
I miss the old LGA crewroom, and hate it that the PDT folks are going to once again get the rug pulled out from under them...Why they aren't flying Q-400s on their own certificate all over the Northeast defies comprehension. Perfect airplane, a long history of safety and success going all the way back to the Henson days. I am giving up on trying to second-guess managers...Thanks for all the jumpseat rides to ROA guys and gals.

Colgan BE-1900 Captain HYA 07-08
 
Doug Taylor said:
Hopefully the next AE won't be as bad as I think it will and I will escape to the DTW 330 myself.
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Here I was confident this AE would be about as interesting as the last and WHAM. Folks better check their displacement bid.
 
RightSeatGirl said:
This thing still has to get approved so it still may not happen.
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I'll betchya it'll happen.

The last deal was off because no one wanted to un-ass a bunch of slots to SWA.

Good they resisted because if they had given SWA the slots and then they acquired Air Tran, it would have been a screw deal.

Now since SWA acquired Air Tran, and a lot of their frequencies, there's no longer the pressure to give up slots to a "LCC" so betchya a dollar it goes thru this time without all of the give-backs.
 
Duck_Twacy said:
What is the story behind the halo rule that, according to both Kirby and Parker in crew news, has cramped Airways' style? Doesn't that expire at some point?
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The perimeter rule at LGA is controlled by the (I think?) Transit Authority, or maybe the local government. The perimeter rule at DCA is controlled by Congress. Management at Airways has said multiple times that they feel they can better lobby the federal government to relax the perimeter rule at DCA than they can get the authorities at LGA to do it. That said, this management team has done a less than stellar job adapting to East Coast operations since they took over so who knows how it will work out.
 
BobDDuck said:
I'd guess most of the increase in flying at DC will be given to Mainline and AWAC.
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Nope not us. Airways just yanked a line of flying from us due to the misfits up in toon town (ATW). We cannot handle anymore flying without hiring/upgrading and actually getting our 70 a/c to stay working for longer than 20min before having to be ferried somewhere.
 
Doug Taylor said:
I'll betchya it'll happen.

The last deal was off because no one wanted to un-ass a bunch of slots to SWA.

Good they resisted because if they had given SWA the slots and then they acquired Air Tran, it would have been a screw deal.

Now since SWA acquired Air Tran, and a lot of their frequencies, there's no longer the pressure to give up slots to a "LCC" so betchya a dollar it goes thru this time without all of the give-backs.
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JUst so we are clear, is that $1 to every JC member listed?? That could get pricey. Or it could be lucrative.
 
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