Skywest/union

MusketeerMan said:
Train..thanks man! Guess where I'm stuck? At the Holiday Inn in Houston. Thanks RAH! This place royally sucks...at least we got a renovated room tonight.
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Oh, jeez. Are you guys at the Holiday Inn Intercontinental? Stayed there for ramp/CSA training at XJT for several weeks. I wanted to gouge my eyes out.....
 
MusketeerMan said:
Train..thanks man! Guess where I'm stuck? At the Holiday Inn in Houston. Thanks RAH! This place royally sucks...at least we got a renovated room tonight.
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kellwolf said:
Oh, jeez. Are you guys at the Holiday Inn Intercontinental? Stayed there for ramp/CSA training at XJT for several weeks. I wanted to gouge my eyes out.....
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I think that is the same place we stay at for IAH overnights too. What a dumpster hotel. It wouldn't be so bad if there was something around to do!
 
jtrain609 said:
You guys are seeing a lot strange little things from folks that fly in the CoEx bases pop up here, and you've gotta understand the background behind it.

A lot of folks that are at ExpressJet were not hired by ExpressJet, they were hired by Continental, to fly for Continental Express and flow up to Continental mainline. I flew with one captain who described his interview experience for CoEx and interviewer asked him how it felt to do his last airline interview ever, obviously meaning he was hired and would be at Continental within a few years.

Shortly after that, Continental Express was spun off and turned into ExpressJet. Continental said, "But it's ok, we'll still have the flow through."

Then that disapeared.

Then Continental said, "Oh we'll still have pref. hiring for you guys!"

Then that disapeared.

Then Continental said, "Oh, well, we're taking 69 of our airplanes."

And a lot of folks stood up and said, "WHAT THE ####!"

Now we're in our situation today where Continental looks like it's continuing it's process of dismantling ExpressJet. Chataquatron took a lot of the crap for losing the 69 airplanes, because a lot of folks were simply angry at watching a company they had fought hard to make the best be taken apart, piece by piece.

Then it was Colgan.

Now it's Skywest.

You've gotta understand, there is a lot of bad blood between Continental and some of the guys on the CoEx side of ExpressJet. They've been there 10 years now and couldn't leave if they wanted to. They probably hate Continental more than Stalin and the destruction of the quality of Continental's product has floored a lot of folks.

Bethune built himself a great airline, with some happy people and respected the folks that worked under him. Larry "The Forehead" Kellner, on the other hand, is a bean counter, and as far as I can see has destroyed a once proud airline, and what is now ExpressJet USED to be part of that.

So it's a little deeper than simply making Chataquatron the scape goat, which they certainly are made to be at ExpressJet, but it's no different than the time I saw a widget pilot give the finger to a Southwest jet (under the instrument panel, of course, while taxiing around), or when Airways guys bag on Republic pilots (even though it's their own fault that Republic is flying EMB-175's for them) or how a TSA pilot would most likely jump a GoJets pilot in a back alley.
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Absolutely spot on.

The forehead and JR, have a mutual hatred toward each other. Ream can be a bit of a stubborn hothead, and Kellner counts beans while killing the bean trees. And now Bethune is pissed at the forehead for screwing up a great airline that he built after taking the reigns from labor hating Lorenzo. Welcome to the world of a 803XX Bar Harbor guy that (accidently) had his "last interview" in 1976 to hump bags in Boston to pay for flying lessons
 
Hmm...so does all this boil down to the simple fact that two CEO's mutual hate for one another overrides good business practice? Please tell me it is more than that. Basically the employees at XJT are going to be screwed because two guys can't get along?! Awesome. :sarcasm:

Such are egos in the business world I guess :rolleyes:
 
bike21 said:
Hmm...so does all this boil down to the simple fact that two CEO's mutual hate for one another overrides good business practice? Please tell me it is more than that. Basically the employees at XJT are going to be screwed because two guys can't get along?! Awesome. :sarcasm:

Such are egos in the business world I guess :rolleyes:
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99.9% spot on.

Hopefully Gordo gan smack some sense into Kellner, before he totally effs his company.

Unfortunately many people at mainline see Kellner as a continuation of the Gordo years. Which is basically not true.
 
FlyChicaga said:
That's Colleen. Center controller right? She bartends there part time.

That's not the REAL Hoot County though... Not even half as fun.
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True, but it's walking distance. Some of us are too cheap to pay cab fare for cheap cold beer.
 
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