SkyWest starts flying for Alaska Airlines

mrivc211

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On company website. Starting May 2011. CRJ 700's. No details about bases or routes announced yet.

SkyWest is excited to announce a new agreement with Alaska Airlines for contract flying on the West Coast with five CRJ700 aircraft. The deal is a capacity purchase agreement, meaning the flights will be fee-per-departure.....We anticipate the flying will begin in May, and the routes, likely in the Pacific Northwest, will be announced in the coming weeks.
 
Boy that's a slap in the face to the Horizon pilots who formerly operated the Fokker F100 or the CRJ700.
 
Boy that's a slap in the face to the Horizon pilots who formerly operated the Fokker F100 or the CRJ700.

Yikes, yeah. A buddy of mine spent a good year and a half on furlough from Horizon because the CRJs got parked and apparently now, handed off to another company.
 
My FO last week flew the F100 at Horizon. He just got hired at Emirates. a little odd, but overall a nice guy. When he told me he flew F100's at horizon I thought he was pulling my chain. Then the jumpseater confirmed it. Poor guys been bounced around the regional level for a long time.
 
I'm sure the 2 airlines unions will work out preferential hiring for furloughed guys.

I'm confused on this one, the lack of a sarcasm tag has me scratching my head?

It is interesting though how this announcement coincides with them taking the Horizon paint off the Qs!
 
Isn't Horizon replacing most of the jets with Q400s? Also, could any Horizon pilots post a synopsis of your workrules?
 
Alaska Air Group announced today that Alaska Airlines has reached an initial agreement for SkyWest Airlines to acquire the five remaining CRJ-700s in Horizon Air’s fleet and operate them under a capacity purchase agreement. Alaska also announced it is considering the deployment of Horizon Q400s on some state of Alaska routes.

Andrew Harrison, vice president of planning and revenue management, and Joe Sprague, vice president of marketing, answer questions related to these two moves.

Why is Alaska entering into a CPA with SkyWest?
Harrison: Horizon’s financial success depends on its transition to an all-Q400 fleet so it can reap benefits equivalent to what Alaska gained from its own transition to the Boeing 737. That leaves a few longer routes that, for competitive and economic reasons, we need to keep serving with regional jets. SkyWest will fill that need.

What routes will SkyWest be flying?
Harrison: We’re still evaluating that and expect to have an answer in the next month or so. As always with major market changes, we’ll let employees, vendors and airport authorities in these cities know before we announce publicly. What I can say at this point is that SkyWest will primarily be flying the CRJ-700s on some of our longer-haul West Coast routes currently served with the aircraft, but not all of them. Those others will be served by Horizon with the Q400.

Why not have Alaska fly its own jets on these routes?
Harrison: We’ve found that larger jets don’t work well on these routes.

Why is SkyWest flying these routes instead of Horizon?
Sprague: Horizon will not be able to capture the economies of a single fleet until all of its CRJ-700s are gone. In addition, with hundreds of regional jets in its fleet contracted to fly for numerous other customers in similar CPA arrangements, SkyWest has economies of scale that Horizon cannot match.

When will the last five CRJ-700s begin leaving Horizon’s fleet?
Harrison: The current plan is for the last five Horizon CRJ-700s to transition out of Horizon’s fleet starting in April. All current Horizon CRJ-700 flying will either be flown for Alaska with a Horizon Q400 or with a SkyWest CRJ-700 by summer. In order to get the SkyWest CRJ-700s painted in their new livery, some of the flights may need to be temporarily operated with SkyWest 50-seat regional jets until all the CRJ-700s are repainted.

What will be the livery on the SkyWest CRJ-700s flown for Alaska?
Sprague: These SkyWest CRJ-700s will likely sport a version of the Alaska livery. A final decision on this is expected shortly.

Many of our competitors offer a first class cabin on their regional airline partners. Will there be a first class on these SkyWest-operated Alaska flights?
Sprague: Some the majors offer first class on their regional partners as a way to attract very lucrative international business and first class passenger connections. The vast majority of our customers on these SkyWest-operated routes are traveling domestic point-to-point and are very price sensitive. Our experience is that relatively few customers purchase first class seats on our short routes. We believe we’ll gain more revenue by having more seats in a single-class configuration, lowering our per-seat cost and allowing us to remain competitive with the likes of single-class competitors like Southwest and JetBlue.

Will SkyWest offer complimentary Northwest wines and microbrews like Horizon?
Sprague: Yes. This enhances the inflight experience for all customers, including those who would have preferred a first class cabin had it been available.

Why would we want to operate Horizon flights in the state of Alaska?
Harrison: In looking at the average demand for air travel on some intra-Alaska routes, we see in many cases that demand could be accommodated with a 76-seat Q400 and at a lower cost. Replacing Alaska mainline flying with the Q400 would allow us to reduce costs and lower fares on the routes and give us the opportunity to re-deploy 737s on other routes where they can be more profitable. Our commitment to air cargo in the state of Alaska remains unchanged, and that service will continue to be provided primarily by Alaska Airlines, due to the size and quantity of cargo involved.

When could we see the first Horizon Q400s in the state of Alaska and where would they operate?
Harrison: It’s too early to tell, because it’s not a done deal yet. Scheduling people in my group and operations folks at Horizon and Alaska are working up possible scenarios. Should we decide to proceed, it would likely involve two or three Q400s and would not take place before the end of this year. Once we arrive at any decisions, we’ll get the word out.

Free Beer? :)
 
The CRJs have been on the chopping block for some time... at least a year. The Air Group is sold on the one-type fleet and I don't think they saw it financially viable to have a small fleet of similar size aircraft on the property. It doesn't surprise me they went to SkyWest. The cost structure is better for the few routes that fall between a 737 and Q400 operationally.

I can see this as an unstable environment for SkyWest pilots, actually. I would not recommend moving to Portland (if that's where they'll base the Alaska flying) and buying a house based on this agreement because it very well could turn out to be another Houston debacle for Skywest (remember 2004-ish?, Skywest Brasilias in Houston, people moving buying houses, only to have Continental say "no, thanks"). If Alaska sees the need to grow a certain route, they'll yank the RJ off and put a 737 on. If Alaska can make money themselves on a route, they'll send Skywest packing.

This isn't the first time they've used another regional for flying... Not sure about now, but they used to have American Eagle as their shuttle in Socal, as well as Era and Penair in Alaska.

I'll take the unpopular position and say that if it makes money for the Air Group, then let them do it. Sure there are pilots on furlough, but to keep an unprofitable fleet on property is only inviting more financial burdens which means more cuts and more pilots on furlough.
 
The CRJs have been on the chopping block for some time... at least a year. The Air Group is sold on the one-type fleet and I don't think they saw it financially viable to have a small fleet of similar size aircraft on the property. It doesn't surprise me they went to SkyWest. The cost structure is better for the few routes that fall between a 737 and Q400 operationally.

I can see this as an unstable environment for SkyWest pilots, actually. I would not recommend moving to Portland (if that's where they'll base the Alaska flying) and buying a house based on this agreement because it very well could turn out to be another Houston debacle for Skywest (remember 2004-ish?, Skywest Brasilias in Houston, people moving buying houses, only to have Continental say "no, thanks"). If Alaska sees the need to grow a certain route, they'll yank the RJ off and put a 737 on. If Alaska can make money themselves on a route, they'll send Skywest packing.

This isn't the first time they've used another regional for flying... Not sure about now, but they used to have American Eagle as their shuttle in Socal, as well as Era and Penair in Alaska.

I'll take the unpopular position and say that if it makes money for the Air Group, then let them do it. Sure there are pilots on furlough, but to keep an unprofitable fleet on property is only inviting more financial burdens which means more cuts and more pilots on furlough.


Don't worry. If there is a Portland base it will be staffed with 15 year+ guys who have been living in Portland their entire lives and are currently commuting or coming over finally from the brazilla.



My best friend works at Horizon and he told me years ago that with Horizon going to an all Q400 fleet that most likely Skywest would be brought in to do a little jet flying. I think the only people worked up over this is the internet crowd. Anybody furloughed from Horizon who wants to be at Skywest or anywhere else is already there. The guys who are sticking around are that group who will never leave the pacific northwest, specifically Portland and Seattle (which includes my buddy).
 
I had the VP of InFlight in the shuttle to our SEA hotel that got me scratching my head. That was on Jan 5th. One of our pilots was saying they were probably off to an FAA meeting. I agree what Chris says. At only 5 RJs were not talking about a lot of flying. Someone was saying how nice it would be to gate swap at the outstations. With their RJ routes going into LGB,BUR,ONT, that wouldn't be all too bad.

While I do see them taking out the HUDs, since were not certified, I hope they'll leave in the second FMS.
 
While SkyWest feels like it's "not taking much from Horizon", in a way you are. By SkyWest using Horizon's airplanes on Horizon's routes but with lower paid flight crews, they're going to be taking jobs. If Horizon stays at 48 aircraft (down from 53 aircraft), that's a net of 10 crews per plane...so you've got downgrades and furloughs if more people don't "get out" or Horizon doesn't get more airplanes.

SkyWest pays their CRJ700 Captains anywhere from $11-15/hour to fly the same aircraft...SkyWest by virtue of not having a union, has no CBA and can't negotiate a higher payscale...so in effect by taking over flying for someone else at a high payscale, they've now harmed everyone else.

It's going to be fun to watch when Horizon planes are landing at SEA or anywhere else that's CAT-III mins and the SkyWest flown aircraft can't land because they can't use the HUD's that are on those sub-leased aircraft. Diversions will end up costing the company, not to mention the pax complaints that will surely arise from it.

I wish no ill-will towards the SkyWest crews...just towards their management and the management of Alaska Air Group. I just hope that PDX grows enough to warrant Alaska taking over the CRJ routes with 737's and doing away with CRJ flying all together.
 
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