SkyWest RJ class

GaTechKid said:
C'mon EDUC8! Aren't you in your 2nd year at PSA now? Don't you guys make $8 less per hour on the -200, $5 less per hour on the -700, and 3 hours less each month on reserve?
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I was going to mention the same thing. Interpolating payscales,

PSA
50 seater: $27/hr
70 seater: $30/hr
90 seater: $33/hr

Skywest
50 seater: $35/hr
70 seater: $35/hr
90 "seater", although it's configured for 76: $35/hr

Looks like Skywest guys still come out ahead. Factor in the 2.5 year CRJ upgrade, and they come out waaay ahead.

We're fighting over peanuts here.
 
Flyingmaniac

The Brasilia flying in Cali is quite expansive with a lot of bases to chose from. I'm not saying that you want to stay on the EMB forever, but it is not a big deal to start there and fly it for a year. Especially if you want to live in CA. Most of our new EMB guys will have much better schedules than the new RJ guys & the pay is essentially the same. If you were to get the jet from the beginning that is certianly OK too. Both aircraft have numerous bases in CA.
 
wheelsup said:
I was going to mention the same thing. Interpolating payscales,

PSA
50 seater: $27/hr
70 seater: $30/hr
90 seater: $33/hr

Skywest
50 seater: $35/hr
70 seater: $35/hr
90 "seater", although it's configured for 76: $35/hr

Looks like Skywest guys still come out ahead. Factor in the 2.5 year CRJ upgrade, and they come out waaay ahead.

We're fighting over peanuts here.
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Small things add up!
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Small things add up!
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Doug Parker, CEO of the "new" US Air, was recently quoted saying the following to the pilot group:

Doug Parker said:
"The days of flying larger airplanes for more money are over."
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Unfortunately, I think the single-seat rates at skywest are an indicator of things to come. That being said, I'm not OPPOSED to a single rate, as long as that "single" rate is high (ie what UPS does).
 
wheelsup said:
Doug Parker, CEO of the "new" US Air, was recently quoted saying the following to the pilot group:



Unfortunately, I think the single-seat rates at skywest are an indicator of things to come. That being said, I'm not OPPOSED to a single rate, as long as that "single" rate is high (ie what UPS does).
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Pipe dream but he'd be wrong if pilots stuck together and refused to fly for lower rates. He'd change his mind quick.

I can't wait until someone (with power/authority) says "the days of CEO's making bonuses off the backs of labor for taking concessions are over!" Lets see how he'd handle that...
 
I don't know where you are getting that $33 an hour from. PSA doesn't have a 90 seat rate and hence we aren't getting -900s. And don't get me started on Parker talking about flying different sized aircraft for the same rate two weeks after he justified raises for most of the upper managment by saying that they are now in charge of a bigger company.
 
BobDDuck said:
I don't know where you are getting that $33 an hour from. PSA doesn't have a 90 seat rate and hence we aren't getting -900s. And don't get me started on Parker talking about flying different sized aircraft for the same rate two weeks after he justified raises for most of the upper managment by saying that they are now in charge of a bigger company.
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I interpolated from your current rates :)

IE:
50 seater rate, $27/hr
70 seater rate, $30/hr
90 seater rate, $33/hr

It was just a guess, that's all :) But it goes to show you that skywests' rates aren't low so to speak, in relation to the rest of the regional payrates, even for a quote/unquote 90 seater.
 
flyingmaniac said:
Well, when I was in college, I learned the systems and cockpit procedures of a 727. So if the CRJ systems are some-what the same then I think I'll be allright. I even got chance to start up the 727 that FedEx donated to MTSU. It was a great thriller. A lot of instructors coming out of my flight school are leaving and flying CRJ's and ERJ's for the regionals, so I would like the same. The fact of the matter is that I want to live in California because I have family there that I want to get to know. I know SkyWest is big in Cali, so that is one of my options.
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The brasilia systems are closer to a 727 than a CRJ...in the end it doesn't matter...each airplane is different...what you'll find is the general knowledge you learned in those courses will help you out immensly in ground school.

You're probably not going to be able to live in Cali flying the jet right off the bat, so I'd say fly the brasilia, live in cali.....it'll make you a real pilot.......that and.....


Chicks Dig Beta :bandit:
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
Small things add up!
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Is this the small stuff you're referring to?

Here's what I'll be getting paid:

737-700 (124 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-400 (144 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-800 (157 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-900 (172 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year

Nobody seems to care that the majors do the same thing with payrates and same-type airplanes.

Oh yeah, that's right, it's a blended rate. . . whatever the heck that means. . .
 
All this talk is making rethink about applying to skyw again.

Don't want to hijack the thread but,
SkyWChris congrats on your new job. I still remember when you were role playing the newhire FO in the CRM part of my interview two years ago. I wanted to smack you for not doing something but I kept my cool.
 
SkyWChris said:
Is this the small stuff you're referring to?

Here's what I'll be getting paid:

737-700 (124 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-400 (144 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-800 (157 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-900 (172 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year

Nobody seems to care that the majors do the same thing with payrates and same-type airplanes.

Oh yeah, that's right, it's a blended rate. . . whatever the heck that means. . .
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Nothing wrong with a blended rate as wheelsup stated if it is a good blended rate. But I just prefer how CO does it for their 737. One rate for their 500-700's and a higher rate for their 800-900's!
 
flyingmaniac said:
What are the chances of getting hired at SkyWest and flying the Brasilia? I really want to fly for SkyWest but not in a Brasilia. So what are the chances of getting hired and flying the CRJ?
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IF this is your approach, my personal opinion is you have your priorities all messed up. Why wouldn't you want to fly the Bro? Do you know anything about it? Like Max said, you have Shiney Jet Syndrome.

I hope to go back to the Bro in a year in the left seat. I love that plane. Of course the Rj is more automated but what is the point? One thing I have that the people that haven't been in the Bro at SKYW is enough confidence and knowledge that I am excited, and willing, to upgrade in the Bro. Seriously, if I could flash forward one year from now I will be upgrading and hundreds of people in front of me on the seniority list will be waiting for a left seat opportunity in the RJ. But why? The reason: they are nervous, er, scared, to upgrade in a turboprop.

When the last two Captain I have flown with were hired by FedEx and Alaska respectively, why would wait for the RJ?
 
meyers9163 said:
Options in aviation? Well not sounding negative but I'd say keep your "option" list wide open. Yeah Skywest would be awesome to fly for but just because your buddies are flying the jets does not mean it is right for everyone. I mean if you got on with SKW do you not think that learning a new system and plane such as the EMB might not make you a better overall pilot? Just wondering about that.
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Planes are like life, they are what you make of them. If you fly the Bro and learn it inside and out and fly the piss out it, you will have a great time. If you sit in the left seat and opperate with the idea that the Captain has got it all covered then you will get nothing out of any plane you fly.

The Brasilia is a fantastic regional turboprop.
 
SkyWChris said:
Is this the small stuff you're referring to?

Here's what I'll be getting paid:

737-700 (124 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-400 (144 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-800 (157 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
737-900 (172 seats): $35.16 first year, $61.67 second year
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Grandparents for free babysitting.........Priceless! :insane:
 
pilot602 said:
Why are people so scared of the Bro? Or Turboprops in general?
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From what I have been told by my friends....they always say how hard it is to fly, systems etc. When they bumped up into the jet it was always how easy it was to fly, systems, automated blah blah blah. I like the Bro it was the best 40 min back massage going to and from Cedar.

If only they had them in ORD.

Busy night for SkyW Are they doing checkrides
http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KCDC
 
Ophir said:
IF this is your approach, my personal opinion is you have your priorities all messed up. Why wouldn't you want to fly the Bro? Do you know anything about it? Like Max said, you have Shiney Jet Syndrome.

I hope to go back to the Bro in a year in the left seat. I love that plane. Of course the Rj is more automated but what is the point? One thing I have that the people that haven't been in the Bro at SKYW is enough confidence and knowledge that I am excited, and willing, to upgrade in the Bro. Seriously, if I could flash forward one year from now I will be upgrading and hundreds of people in front of me on the seniority list will be waiting for a left seat opportunity in the RJ. But why? The reason: they are nervous, er, scared, to upgrade in a turboprop.

When the last two Captain I have flown with were hired by FedEx and Alaska respectively, why would wait for the RJ?
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I guess that would make sense, getting more PIC time in a turboprop, than gaining SIC in an RJ. So I'm sure this probably has been asked before, but at SkyWest, what is the general upgrade time in the Bro and the RJ?
 
flyingmaniac said:
I guess that would make sense, getting more PIC time in a turboprop, than gaining SIC in an RJ. So I'm sure this probably has been asked before, but at SkyWest, what is the general upgrade time in the Bro and the RJ?
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You can upgrade in the same amount of time, no matter which aircraft you start out in. I think upgrades are running more or less 1.5yrs for the Brasilia and 2yrs or so for the jet, but that could change in an instant.

I think the point people are trying to make is that it's not a good idea to be picky about aircraft choices--in the long run, it's all turbine time.

If you want to be guaranteed to fly a CRJ, there's always GoJets.
 
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