SkyWest Lowers mins for 121 pilots; CRJ or equivalent A/C

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They posted some info a few hours later to clarify that it does not have to be a CRJ. ERJ would also be considered equivalent. I suspect any jet time might be considered. (Just my opinion.) Turboprop? I dunno, it kind of sounds like they want jet time in order to use the lower mins. Personally I think any turbine 121 would be worthy for consideration.
 
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BTW Bike 21. I like your signature. That pretty much sums up how I felt during upgrade. Especially during SIM. (Had the 10 to 2 am shift.) Just put the caffiene in directly in my veins. :)
 
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whaleroast said:
A non-union, PFT, 19/hour pilot group deserves everything they get.
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SkyWest wages are highly competitive with union carriers of the same level...

Unions aren't be-all end-all of the world. Non unions undercutting union wages is one thing, but when you are paying higher than many union airlines at the regional level...
 
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Chris_Ford said:
I'm not sure how what I asked was "immature" but perhaps since you folks work for a company out of Utah, you aren't used to people saying "hell" so I'll rephrase:

"How the heck is the determination made of what is an equivalent aircraft and what is not? In the eyes of the FAA, there are no equivalents outside of the CL-65 variants."

Is that better, Francis?
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Chris, I didn't have a problem with your question, it was just the tone of the way you responded. Instead of just asking the question, you chose to respond in a way that was angry in tone. If you replay any time you have heard any one say, "How the . . . what the . . . who the . . ." you will recall that it was in an angry fashion. As in, "Who the hell do you think you are." I was glad to send an email to clarify your question, I just wasn't happy with your seemingly angry post that seemed out of place and out of context. That's all.

I much appreciated the insight of this post:

Chris_Ford said:
Because you fly the ERJ/CRJ for Mesa (miserable QoL), Eagle (no upgrade...yet) or any other carrier and you just want to live on the west coast.

There's always a million reasons people want to go to different airlines.
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By the way I can clarify that it was for CRJ/ERJ experience. They will be glad to look at any other 121 time although it may not carry the same weight as the jet time.

Who you calling Francis ?
 
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Another regional lowering their own standards to find warm bodies with a pulse. Kind of funny to see where the bottom of the barrel is for regionals. This is no poke at any individuals - just a poke at the "modern" regional industry - as it were.


Max
 
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JDMcFly said:
SkyWest wages are highly competitive with union carriers of the same level...

Unions aren't be-all end-all of the world. Non unions undercutting union wages is one thing, but when you are paying higher than many union airlines at the regional level...
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Pay isn't the only thing important to most pilots. So I hear QOL, benefits, and work rules play an important role as well.

While I'm sure there are many guys who enjoy working at Skywest because management is all up in your business. . .I'm sure there are equally, if not more guys, concerned about management being all up in your business and there not being a sense of protection of your job from manegement scum.

Could just be me though. . .but then again - there is an ALPA push at SKW, a push I hope is successful.
 
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flyguy said:
PFT? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Maybe he thinks SKW crews have to pay for their training? At least that's what it looks like to me.

May want to set the record correct.
 
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bumblebee said:
Chris, I didn't have a problem with your question, it was just the tone of the way you responded. Instead of just asking the question, you chose to respond in a way that was angry in tone. If you replay any time you have heard any one say, "How the . . . what the . . . who the . . ." you will recall that it was in an angry fashion. As in, "Who the hell do you think you are." I was glad to send an email to clarify your question, I just wasn't happy with your seemingly angry post that seemed out of place and out of context. That's all.
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Eh I disagree on the "how the hell usually starts an angry saying" thing, but after thinking about it, it's completely reliant on tone of voice. How the helll? (while raising voice upon saying hell) was how I meant it, not "HOW THE HELL?!!" So my apologies for the lack of clarity.
 
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Maybe he thinks SKW crews have to pay for their training? At least that's what it looks like to me.

May want to set the record correct.
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Last time I checked my pay history, I was paid around $2500 during training. I got about $1200 to sit on the couch and entertain the yorkie for a month waiting for IOE. Uniforms sans blazers are provided as well.
 
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Lee D said:
BTW Bike 21. I like your signature. That pretty much sums up how I felt during upgrade. Especially during SIM. (Had the 10 to 2 am shift.) Just put the caffiene in directly in my veins. :)
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Thanks, yep just got back from the SLC Roasting Company a little while ago!

whaleroast said:
A non-union, PFT, 19/hour pilot group deserves everything they get.
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Speaking of immaturity.
 
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GaTechKid said:
Last time I checked my pay history, I was paid around $2500 during training. I got about $1200 to sit on the couch and entertain the yorkie for a month waiting for IOE. Uniforms sans blazers are provided as well.
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That's great, thanks for quoting me. I know you guys don't have to pay for training. Quote the gentlemen that thinks such.
 
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While I'm sure there are many guys who enjoy working at Skywest because management is all up in your business. . .I'm sure there are equally, if not more guys, concerned about management being all up in your business and there not being a sense of protection of your job from manegement scum.
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Tram is right...
 
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surreal1221 said:
That's great, thanks for quoting me. I know you guys don't have to pay for training. Quote the gentlemen that thinks such.
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You asked to set the record straight so I did. Are you seriously this jaded in real life? Anger just seeps out through most of your posts.
 
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SkyWest and PFT?!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

This guy is good!
 
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GaTechKid said:
You asked to set the record straight so I did. Are you seriously this jaded in real life? Anger just seeps out through most of your posts.
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Not even close. I just don't want to be associated with anyone thinking that I SAID SKW crews are PFT.

And with you quoting me, instead of the guy who actually said it. . .it comes off that way. Perception matters around these parts.

GaTechKid said:
Tram is right...
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Yes, yes he is.

And I'm wrong because SKW management is NOT scum?
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I can only assume you are one not supporting the ALPA push at SKW then?
 
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surreal1221 said:
Not even close. I just don't want to be associated with anyone thinking that I SAID SKW crews are PFT.

And with you quoting me, instead of the guy who actually said it. . .it comes off that way. Perception matters around these parts.
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No worries for the two of you from my angle. I understood both of what Surreal asked and GaTech answered. 'Seeetttlleee....settle!!' :)
 
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JDMcFly said:
SkyWest wages are highly competitive with union carriers of the same level...

Unions aren't be-all end-all of the world. Non unions undercutting union wages is one thing, but when you are paying higher than many union airlines at the regional level...
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ok now, hold it. I understand no union and all, but how is Skywest PFT?

Edit: Just read the remainder of the post, looks like the issue has already been taken care of :D

Skywest is a good carrier, their mins are still way above many. Not having a union is not the end of the world (but then again, according to here there are some captains who won't even give jumpseats to non unioners).
 
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The whole compensation package at SKW is greater than the majority of regional carriers, union or not. Zmiller made more on $19 per hour at SKW than he did at Eagle on $23 per hour. I make more on $19 per hour at SKW than I did at Colgan on $21 per hour or would have made on $26 per hour had I stayed. Things that boost the paycheck at SKW are higher per diem rates, less reserve time due to PBS, paid quarterly recurrent training, paid holidays regardless if you worked it, block or better, 1:2 duty rigs, 1:1 duty rig above 12 scheduled duty hours, 401K match, operational bonuses, profit sharing, stock options, and stock purchase plans. Little things like having to agree to go beyond 14 scheduled hours, working with a decent crew support, and getting crew meals are nice too.

Everyone I've met or flown with at SkyWest is here because they chose this company, not because it was their first airline offer. Regardless if they support the ALPA drive or not, most of our pilots believe that SkyWest is the best regional out there. That results in a happier-than-average pilot group which is directly related to less complaining on FI.
 
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