Skywest, American Eagle or Mesa?

The outlook on this industry is definately up in the air I think but I hope that is gets stronger and the hiring gets even better. I definately think that it is a very competitive market with respects to finding a pilot job in the regionals and the majors. That in itself can be frustrating at times. As for low time pilot guys like me with only about 320 hours logged and are wanting to fly for a regional, hopefully things will look good a few years down the road for the job market at a Regional.
 
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Upgrade at Mesa can be anywhere from 3 months to 4 years, depending on what aircraft you choose. We still have 15 CR9s to add for HPX, rumors of 30 additional CR7s for UAX, and that pesky 737 gig will happen, too. However, we're run by the Devil. Do not come here. That goes for everyone. I will not be able to sleep at night if I know any of you take a job here.

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Bog,

As someone who is looking to go though the MAPD program...I have to ask...is it really that bad at YV. Yes I check out the mesalounge,but I take what I read there with a grain of salt. Granted your contract isn't the best(but you got rid of Freedom Air),and 2 of your codeshare partners are..how can I put this nicely...looking into a black hole. But has things really gotting to the breaking point?
 
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But I still gotta wonder why an airline changes it's name (i.e. Valujet to Airtran?)

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Come on John, you know exactly why they changed their name. You can't run a business when your name is associated with shotty maintenance and the needless deaths of too many passengers. It was impossible for Valuhet to shake what the press made them out to be so they changed their name.

AirTran is a whole different company today than it was during its Valujet days.

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Let me take a page off of "DUH" magazine here.

Someone missed my point completely ... Why did COEx change their name to ExpressJet?

Hello?
 
Going back through your post, I can see where you meant this. But come on. You can't possibly tell us that was obvious when the example you gave was "i.e., Valujet to Airtran".
 
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Let me take a page off of "DUH" magazine here.

Someone missed my point completely ... Why did COEx change their name to ExpressJet?

Hello?

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Definitely wasn't the obvious John, but I understand reading your post over a couple times, but why not just say (i.e CoEx to ExpressJet).

Not sure why they changed their name, might be the new look Continential was going for when CoEx went all jet. They definitely wanted their customer base to know that, especially since many passengers hate props.
 
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Just bumped into a college buddy at the hotel in RDU two days ago. He's been at Eagle for 8 years, is 100 numbers away from CA on the ERJ, and will not see it. American is going to furlough 500 pilots, and many of them will go to Eagle and push him back. Maybe he'll upgrade at year 15. So, don't go there.

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He could easily hold turboprop CA at any, or almost any base that has them and probably have a decent line. Excuse me if I don't feel too sorry for him.
 
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But has things really gotting to the breaking point?

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Well, you summed it up. Two partners in Chapter 11, one still barely holding on. A disenfranchised pilot group which is about to get reamed once again with Freedumb 2.0. Management who has no idea how to run an airline, just scam the books for themselves. Yes, it is that bad in my opinion. Tenney will say it's just me, but he doesn't work here anymore.



As for COEX becoming ExpressJet, it happened when they were spun off with the IPO. Giving them a non-codesharish name allows them to (hopefully) start bidding for other airlines' flying sometime soon.
 
FD2.0? Wazzup with that? Your contract's not up already, is it?
 
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Tenney will say it's just me, but he doesn't work here anymore.

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No Bog I won't say that. Because it isn't just you. It isn't just Mesa. It's the whole airline industry. ALL the airlines suck pretty bad compared to 5 years ago! I'm so glad I'm out of it!

In regards to my reference to Airtran vs. Valujet - my point may not have been clear - I am skeptical when ANY organization in aviation changes it's name, since it is usually to bury a bad past - i.e. Valujet to Airtran, or Comair to Delta Connection Academy.

So I still don't see why CO Ex changed to ExpressJet - what are they burying?

They used to be completely PFT (oh my ghandi he said the P word), then they were just PFT for those with less than 2000 hrs. I don't even know if they have it anymore at this point. I'm sure Matt will clear it up for me
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What does Comair to DCA have to do with burying a bad past? Was that from when that guy said Doug was on the outs at Delta?
 
Didn't you get the memo, JT? It's PFJ now...not PFT. At least what TAB and Gulfstream are doing are PFJ. I can't stand PFJ....
 
Freedumb 2.0 will be for the 737s. As of Nov 31, the only aircraft on the F8 certificate will be one solitary Beech 1900, moved over from the Air Middy cert. I can already imagine that we'll ask for something decent for wages, the company will say we're too expensive, and they'll (via our worthless scope clause) sell the F8 ticket and the 3 737s we already have to a "new owner." Plan on that new airline being non-union, with starting FO pay around $20 / flight hour.
 
Geez, $20/flight hour for a 73? I'd much rather work at home depot save up and get a bi-annual Alteon fix.
 
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