surreal1221
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Because it's a dream to them. . .it hasn't become reality yet that you have to defend your livelihood.
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SKYW pilots score another vicory,
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Because it's a dream to them. . .it hasn't become reality yet that you have to defend your livelihood.
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Seggy
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I will have those numbers for you next week. My XJT contact is out on vacation till then.
Seggy
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Ok my contact got back to me today from his vacation. Once again, you at Skywest would get MORE back from ALPA national than your dues would be.
The best analogy to use would be similar to a tax bracket (he said the ALPA accountants HATE that analogy, but it is the best way to describe it so bear with me). The tax bracket is really top heavy though. You have the majors. FEDEX, United, CAL, DAL, NWA, ALASKA, putting more into the pot. Then it is divided into three parts.
The first part is local MEC, the second is ALPA national, the third is the National Contingency Fund.
FEDEX or any other major puts more into ALPA national than ExpressJet does. All of the regionals get back the money they put into ALPA national when because their budget needs are more than their members dues. He said a general rule is that a regional gets back all their members dues time two. Think your taxes (ALPA dues) back PLUS more from Bill Gates (the major airline pilots).
So when Skywest votes ALPA in, say the dues they collect are three million dollars. You would get that back from ALPA national PLUS another three million thanks to the top heavy dues.
I HOPE this clears it up. If you guys need individual people to call concerning the exact financing, who will be able to explain it better, please let me know. I have his permission to give out his number for questions to be asked.
1.95% is the best deal on ANY insurance policy out there!
mrivc211
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But bu bu..........if we get a union, we wont be able to expand! We don't need a union here, nothing will happen to me. I swear.
Plus I don't wanna give my 2% to a big business. I mean, I'm only making $20,000 this year, so $33/month is too much to give up for all that protection. Who would want that? The lawyer I'll need when the company decides it was my fault the ramper guided me into a cart, will only cost $10,000-15,000. Hmmm.......$33/month vs. $10-15K.
It's ok, when I'm done paying the $9,800 for the lawyer(I worked out a deal to save money cuz I'm a cheap bastard pilot, and a medical issue came up and I decided to use the same lawyer, so he gave me a big discount) it will only cost me another $5,000 to take care of the medical issue thats not really a big deal.
Hmmmmm........mean while, my mgmt team is looking out for my best interests. Thats right, they wanna make more money for the company, and not their back pockets. When they sit in those meetings with mainline, they aren't telling United/Delta hey it's ok. We'll fly those 900's at the same price as we fly the 200's for you. Why? Because we don't have a union on property and we can! Because we're the employer of choice. Nahhh. None of this could ever happen to me/us. We Don't need no stickin union!
Plus I don't wanna give my 2% to a big business. I mean, I'm only making $20,000 this year, so $33/month is too much to give up for all that protection. Who would want that? The lawyer I'll need when the company decides it was my fault the ramper guided me into a cart, will only cost $10,000-15,000. Hmmm.......$33/month vs. $10-15K.
It's ok, when I'm done paying the $9,800 for the lawyer(I worked out a deal to save money cuz I'm a cheap bastard pilot, and a medical issue came up and I decided to use the same lawyer, so he gave me a big discount) it will only cost me another $5,000 to take care of the medical issue thats not really a big deal.
Hmmmmm........mean while, my mgmt team is looking out for my best interests. Thats right, they wanna make more money for the company, and not their back pockets. When they sit in those meetings with mainline, they aren't telling United/Delta hey it's ok. We'll fly those 900's at the same price as we fly the 200's for you. Why? Because we don't have a union on property and we can! Because we're the employer of choice. Nahhh. None of this could ever happen to me/us. We Don't need no stickin union!
EDUC8-or
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Don't forget you won't pay dues your first year when you're making 20 grand. You'd be on probation, and even though you're not paying dues they will still protect you unless you do something really stupid.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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Seggy is absolutely right. As a former ALPA Secretary-Treasurer, I can tell you that all regionals receive far more back from ALPA than they put in in dues. The guys at the majors heavily subsidize the regional MECs and LECs. ALPA's costs would actually increase by organizing the Skywest and Colgan pilots. So much for "ALPA's just a big business."
The Capital Cargo pilots just joined ALPA last month. That's a pilot group with only 100+ pilots. That means that their dues revenue will be somewhere along the lines of $100k. With a new contract to be negotiated, their budget will probably be somewhere near double that, if not more. That doesn't include the $2 million that ALPA typically allots from the Major Contingency Fund for negotiations and strike preparations.
You simply can't find more bang for your buck.
The Capital Cargo pilots just joined ALPA last month. That's a pilot group with only 100+ pilots. That means that their dues revenue will be somewhere along the lines of $100k. With a new contract to be negotiated, their budget will probably be somewhere near double that, if not more. That doesn't include the $2 million that ALPA typically allots from the Major Contingency Fund for negotiations and strike preparations.
You simply can't find more bang for your buck.