Simulated Failure Gone Wrong

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t... since switching I now take it down to 2-300 agl before breaking the descent.

I would say being able to practice the maneuver all the way down to a lower altitude has given me somewhat of a more complete perspective overall.

With things happening quickly during the emergency procedure I think like everything else we practice repeatedly it helps develop a more complete picture or experience overall.



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I think this is a great point. It's like an ILS approach, there is flying down the loc/glideslope (part 1) then there's the transition at DH to visual and land. You need that practice between 200 and the ground, it is the most challenging part really. Likewise I'd think if you always break off a simulated engine out at 1000 AGL I'd have questions about how the student would react when the trees and ground are rushing up at them. Will they remember to keep the nose down, keep their speed up until flare. Or will they start pulling back on the yoke because of this new, and frightening experience?

Which reminds me of a true story
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: A guy I knew lost all power one dark night over KS. Load of pax in a 207. Set up the glide, held it til trees apeared in landing lights, took what he had and landed. Plane toast, pax OK. Saw some lights from a house and told his pax to wait while he went for help.

Farmer answers door. Immediately my friend notices a strange look as farmer is staring at him like he's an alien. Farmer gets the phone as requested. After the call for help farmer asks my friend: "Son, does your head hurt?' Friend: "no, why?' Farmer: "you'd better look in the mirror."

My firend looks in the mirror and there's a radio knob sticking out of his forehead. Still has the scar, probably, haven't seen him in a while. But excellent job at bringing his pax home safe.
 
Generally I don't go below 500' with my students unless we're over an airport, then I like to see my students land.
 
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Generally I don't go below 500' with my students unless we're over an airport, then I like to see my students land.

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So is it wrong to land on a gravel road during these emergencies?
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Generally I don't go below 500' with my students unless we're over an airport, then I like to see my students land.

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So is it wrong to land on a gravel road during these emergencies?
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Nope.
 
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Generally I don't go below 500' with my students unless we're over an airport, then I like to see my students land.


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So is it wrong to land on a gravel road during these emergencies?


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Nope.

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He's right. I thought you had to be 500' above the surface, but if it's sparsely populated you just need to stay 500' from the nearest person, structure, etc...
 
I am freaking out. You mean some people actually go HIGHER than 500 feet AGL? Don't the air get thin up yonder? It annoys me just to have to climb that high!

Wow. Wonders never cease and you learn something new every day.
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Seriously, during my training we went way low. And I personally believe that anyone who's never done an emergency procedure that goes below 500' AGL really hasn't got a clearcut idea of what is involved.

Sure, the instructor should pick a suitable space and choose a suitable time. But it seems to me that if you're in a real emergency then it's not going to stop at 1000' or even 500' AGL. It's going all the way to the ground. A student better know what to expect in that case.

An instructor where I used to work pulled the throttle on a student at about 100' AGL on takeoff one time. He then opened the throttle too quickly on the recovery, loaded up the engine and wam-bam hit the ground. No one hurt but the plane got dinged pretty savagely and the instructor lost a lot of face.

A couple of years ago I got a call from the FAA wanting to update some of my info on my Part 137 Certificate. Yep, you guessed it. That instructor was now working for the Feds. And I'll stop my commentary right there.
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