SIC Type

FlyingMoose

FlyingMoose

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Why does 61.55 require that I need one T/O and landing in type before I get an SIC type yet when people finish 121 initial they get a temp certificate with the SIC type with 0 time in type. I completed FSI's 142 course for the Falcon 2000 and only get a logbook endorsement until I get time in the aircraft.
 
If the PIC slumps over in flight, in theory you can land the airplane safely. Plus instant upgrade to the vacant PIC position.

Not sure why it differs from one training environment to another.
 
Ha yeah I understand the feds 'logic' on why you need a landing. I don't understand why 121 does not have to do it. I would think there is an equal chance that the Captain would slump over on your first IOE flight.
 
FlyingMoose said:
Why does 61.55 require that I need one T/O and landing in type before I get an SIC type yet when people finish 121 initial they get a temp certificate with the SIC type with 0 time in type. I completed FSI's 142 course for the Falcon 2000 and only get a logbook endorsement until I get time in the aircraft.
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Ostensibly because we can demonstrate equivalent levels of safety.
 
I may have mentioned this to you before, but why not have a Pt. 135 operation use their certificate to "sponsor" your eligibility for an SIC type. At my FSI center, I did my initial with another client who was getting a PIC type in the CE-650 for a Pt. 135 job. We explained and asked the operation if they would "sponsor" me for my SIC type and fortunately they did. I just had to do a a V1 cut to a single engine ILS in the simulator. I'm sure that is how Pt 121 does it, obviously under they're own certificate. With the CE-560XL and CE-750, I did take off and landings to receive the SIC type. If your center is not familiar with that, I could talk to my guys and find out more about it. They were new to this method as I was the first intern to go that route.
 
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