Should pt 135 pilots be FFDOs?
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T/O w/FSII
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Nothing is preventing a 135 guy from carrying with a CCW. Just abide by local and state regs. Nothing says you can’t.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
I say, if you can keep a bazooka in your pocket, even under the most inappropriate conditions... FREAKING DO IT!
Better yet, a thermonuclear device. 'Cause... MY RAAAAIIIIIGHTS!
Jimmy_Norton
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Eeeeeek a gun!
All that being said, I'm staunchly pro 2a, but I don't see much benefit to the FFDO program.
All that being said, I'm staunchly pro 2a, but I don't see much benefit to the FFDO program.
Space Monkey
Arbitrariness replaces reason with authority.
So then, if that's true, what in 121 prevents a 121 guy from carrying with a CCW?
T/O w/FSII
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The TSA first, and 121 security programs that aren’t applicable under 135.
Not naming names, but there is a certain sheriff in California that will issue CCW permits happily to pilots.
The certificate holder has to authorize it. 14 CFR 135.119.
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Prior to KCM, FFDO was awesome. Less practical now.
That being said, on a number of my work trips now, a govt. issued HK would be like bringing a water gun to a tank fight… so… yeah.
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T/O w/FSII
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Exploring the world one toilet at a time.
121 service is scheduled. Known destinations, each with some form of sterile area. 135 is not always scheduled, and it would be impossible to stay ahead of all possible regulations.
For example VNY, BOS, TEB, MMSD, & SGR are some examples of popular destinations for 91/135 and each has radically different local laws regarding firearms.
Crockrocket94
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So are FBOs gonna all install little gun lock boxes to hold a pistol when you get an ASAP from XXY to somewhere in the not US? And then you'll be back to said FBO in 3 years... HOLD MY GUN!!
DropTank
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Unless you land at an 139 air carrier airport.
dustoff17
Still trying to reach the Top Shelf
Why not let everyone open carry? There was a lot less killing per capita in the old west.
EVERYONE knew to behave themselves or to get ready to ”slap leather!” It was a pretty good system of environmentally-induced self-control.
This would work great at the airports. Guarantee no one would even THINK about storming the cockpit! And the first d*** that runs from the back as soon as the seat belt sign goes off gets dropped in the aisle. Him, and MAYBE one other world wide, and no one else tries it again. You let Your fat spill over both sides of your center seat….BAM! The country goes on a diet!
EVERYONE knew to behave themselves or to get ready to ”slap leather!” It was a pretty good system of environmentally-induced self-control.
This would work great at the airports. Guarantee no one would even THINK about storming the cockpit! And the first d*** that runs from the back as soon as the seat belt sign goes off gets dropped in the aisle. Him, and MAYBE one other world wide, and no one else tries it again. You let Your fat spill over both sides of your center seat….BAM! The country goes on a diet!
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
Why not let everyone open carry? There was a lot less killing per capita in the old west.
EVERYONE knew to behave themselves or to get ready to ”slap leather!” It was a pretty good system of environmentally-induced self-control.
This would work great at the airports. Guarantee no one would even THINK about storming the cockpit! And the first d*** that runs from the back as soon as the seat belt sign goes off gets dropped in the aisle. Him, and MAYBE one other world wide, and no one else tries it again. You let Your fat spill over both sides of your center seat….BAM! The country goes on a diet!
So I have to buy a second seat for my BAR?
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NovemberEcho
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there was a lot of Gun control in the old west too, like not being allowed to carry a gun in town.
dustoff17
Still trying to reach the Top Shelf
Sure, in Tombstone, and in the movies!
And during a time when Law Enforcement wasn’t being defunded…..
NovemberEcho
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Sure, in Tombstone, and in the movies!
And during a time when Law Enforcement wasn’t being defunded…..
Gun Control Is as Old as the Old West
Contrary to the popular imagination, bearing arms on the frontier was a heavily regulated business
www.smithsonianmag.com
TUCKnTRUCK
That guy
To Provide against Carrying of Deadly Weapons" (effective April 19, 1881).
Section 1. It is hereby declared unlawful to carry in the hand or upon the person or otherwise any deadly weapon within the limits of said city of Tombstone, without first obtaining a permit in writing.
Section 2: This prohibition does not extend to persons immediately leaving or entering the city, who, with good faith, and within reasonable time are proceeding to deposit, or take from the place of deposit such deadly weapon.
Shop keepers, home owners etc were still allowed to have them, many were issued permits. The law mostly applied to “outsiders” however the people of tombstone were certainly armed as most household had a firearm then, despite the “carry” prohibition. They still got to strap up when riding out of town, or returning.
Tombstone had a gun store in city limits, required no ID, proof of character nor restrictions based on past charges and convictions literally anybody could walk in a buy a nice new colt or Winchester. A bunch of the Clanton’s and McLaury’s were shopping there immediately before the shootout.
Relative to “gun” control, most every law was against weapons in general, not specifically guns, very few laws specifically outlawed them.
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