Should jtrain take recall?

You've actually just outlined something I hate about law school, and it's the hubris that comes with the people that attend it. People will say, "If you don't go to a top 14 law school, and then don't graduate in the top 10% of your class, you're doomed to failure, suck at life, and should probably just not go in the first place."

It's not true, simply and flatly, though people at the top law schools would love for it to be true.

Being in the top 10% of your class means less and less if you can, and say it with me, network properly. If you can't, you're hosed. If you can, you'll find a job.
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I certainly did not intend to suggest that if you do not make the top 10% of the class you suck at life, or shouldn't have gone - however it isn't a secret that grades and ranking are really important when being considered for internships and internships lead to jobs. Of course networking is important, however from my observation that the L1s who did better in their first semester are having an easier time finding their internships.

Further, you of all people should know that life changes, and more importantly, life changes you. You were going to be a pilot for BA, right? What are you doing now?
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I am not going to lie that for a long time I struggled with what I wanted to do - yes a BA pilot was one of them and then did everything from I-Banking down to earning $250 a week hot walking racehorses. I have been fortunate to solve my career direction - for the last 2 years I have been pursing nursing with an ambition of working in critical care, hopefully one day as a flight nurse. I will happily talk with you off the board about my similar problems, however now like you being married I feel that even if my ambitions lead me somewhere I have to stick to nursing. I have spent a lot of money pursing it and it is a good stable career that I can provide for my family with.
 
Qgar said:
FWIW, I still love you! :hiya:


:bandit:

Reminds me of the saying, "what other people think of me is none ofmy business."
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I love ya back, darlin'! ;)

And, I love that saying! I just don't know why people get so emotionally in disagreements! I never try to make it look like I'm not stirring the pot, but I also don't TRY to stir the pot. But, if you say today that monkeys are cute, I'm gonna remind you of that tomorrow when you say that you hate monkeys!!! :D
 
Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
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If you are going through hell, keep going.

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John,

I voted for take the recall. A lot of people are saying "finish what you started" in regards to law school. I say finish what you started in regards to aviation. It's obviously something you love (we all complain about it) and if you quit now, I don't think you will have given it a fair shake.

Believe it or not, it is possible to have good QOL and a flying job. Just because you didn't get there before your attempt was cut short doesn't mean it's unattainable. You might also consider looking outside of the airlines (eventually).

If (and only if) Emily were to be truly on board with it, I'd say go for it. You worked hard to get there- give it a chance.
 
John, really take the recall and live in the back of a truck at the hanger half way across the states.
 
JayAre said:
John, really take the recall and live in the back of a truck at the hanger half way across the states.
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This would be funnier if you had not lived like that for so long.

I mean quite literally the entire time I worked at Amflight, you lived in your truck.
 
I'm shocked at how many votes there are in the "yes" category. It seems like there are a lot of members here who are really down on the airline industry. Maybe just a vocal minority?
 
My buddies is in this exact same position and one thing that has him up in arms is being Chicago based and the pass rider benefits. Rumor has it that United will not provide the same Pass rider benefits that XJT currently has with CAL, which in my opinion is a huge benefit of the profession. ​
 
galvestonaggie said:
My buddies is in this exact same position and one thing that has him up in arms is being Chicago based and the pass rider benefits. Rumor has it that United will not provide the same Pass rider benefits that XJT currently has with CAL, which in my opinion is a huge benefit of the profession. ​
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The details have not been fleshed out as of yet, but the current grumblings are that guys in Chicago will have UAL benefits (and they will not be as good as the CAL benefits), and lose the CAL benefits. At this point, though, it's all conjecture.
 
jtrain609 said:
Quite frankly, what gets lost in the ether here is that most of us, myself included, love flying airplanes.

Truth be told, flying airplanes for a living WAS my dream, and I attained it.

Moving from that level to where I finally ended up was truly fulfilling my aviation dreams.

But dreams, as they often do in life, change. They meander from place to place. Now my dreams? They're focused squarely on my wife. Now the young guys here won't understand this (I sure didn't), but I really like spending time with her, and the hours I work now allow for that.
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John,
You and I can't seem to agree on anything and we're always at each others throats, but this one thing we have in common.

I left Piedmont because my dreams had changed. Ever since I can remember I dreamed of flying airplanes and becoming an airline pilot. I achieved that goal, made my dream a reality. But then priorities changed and I dreamed a new dream. I made the new dream a reality too.

I still love to fly, and I really love being a flight instructor because I love to share with other people what I love. Unfortunately I can't survive on instructor pay, so I don't fly as often as I'd like.

Reading this post it sounds to me like you've already made up your mind. Time to go after your next dream.

I hope now you can see why I left flying for Piedmont and try not to rub what I do now in my face anymore. :)

Good luck with your decision!
 
twotwowoo said:
I'm shocked at how many votes there are in the "yes" category. It seems like there are a lot of members here who are really down on the airline industry. Maybe just a vocal minority?
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I was thinking that myself.

While I have absolutely no experience, it seems like flying as a career is something that everyone complains about but when push comes to shove it is what everyone loves to do and what everyone will continue to do.

I voted to take the recall. From reading this thread, I really think that is what you want to do and what will make you happy. :)
 
Where is the 3rd option?

Quit both and be a ski instructor your whole life until skin cancer takes you from us.

P.S. Im part of the minority saying don't.
 
My uncle was a head ski instructor for twenty some years. Instructor of the year at beaver creek for a couple years in a row in the early nineties. The guy is INSANE to ski with, but he is a PA now, and I asked him why he did the career change at 40, he told me he was sick of eating ramen noodles. :D
 
Jshutt64 said:
I was thinking that myself.

While I have absolutely no experience, it seems like flying as a career is something that everyone complains about but when push comes to shove it is what everyone loves to do and what everyone will continue to do.
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Seriously? I'm interpreting it a bit differently. On a website entirely devoted to aviation careers, it's just about evenly split between people saying that he should go back to flying or stay in law school. I think that's a pretty big condemnation on this career path.
 
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