Should I log TAA time?

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njdem82

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Hi All,

Quick question here as I have not been able to find any answer on this on the internet. I started my training (wish I didn't) in a cirrus sr-20 which is considered a Technologically Advanced Aircraft. Since then I have logged a decent amount of time in a Skyhawk which , of course, is not considered a TAA.

I Doubt it matters much in the long-run but I am trying to organize my logbook at the moment and would appreciate input on this as I have seen some people log the Cirrus as a TAA and some who have not.

So my question is this-- Can I and if so, should I log my past time in the Cirrus in a new column as a Technologically Advanced Aircraft??

As always thank you
 
You can log any time you feel like. It's your log book. You could log the time every time a certain friend flew with you....but it doesn't mean that it matters.

It's your record keeping, for your reference when you need the information when applying to positions.

Personally, I think logging TAA time is silly. But.....again, it;s your logbook.
 
There is nothing in the FAA world that requires you to log TAAs as TAAs. But people log complex, high performance, all sorts of stuff that isn't required to have a column or a total.

If you think that you might have a use for TAA totals, go ahead.

When I started flying with the G1000 I added a field to my computer logbook for it. At this point, I only add that sort of stuff to my computer log. I don't bother with such things in my paper logbook. You can come up with all sorts of things to add (I log mountain flights) and run out of real estate real quick.
 
Again it's your logbook, I log my complex time and tail wheel time in separate columns. There has been a few times that I've been asked how much complex time I have. If you have a lot of TAA time that's something that you might want to include when applying for a position at your favorite airline. LOL
 
I don't see why not. It could make life a lot easier from you if you either apply for a CFI position at a school that has a lot of TAA. Or for that matter if you decide to rent from someplace and they have certain insurance minimums to rent certain types of TAA.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
There is nothing in the FAA world that requires you to log TAAs as TAAs. But people log complex, high performance, all sorts of stuff that isn't required to have a column or a total.
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If you use a computerized logbook, when you define the tail # of the aircraft, you can usually tag it as complex/hp/tailwheel/taa/etc. Any decent logbook program will let you run a report based on those tags.

Given how easy that is to do, I don't bother logging any of that in a paper logbook. My new logbook does have columns for single/multi/turbine/3+multi/tailwheel/complex/etc. Not sure if I will bother using them (probably not). I bought it because it had a sailplane column, and was $15 ;)
 
I can sort my spreadsheet by different AC types including g1000's. Thats as much as I'm willing to do.
 
I only do special times that I have been asked when insurance comes to play. TAA is one that has been asked along with complex time. Now that I have my electronic log, I don't need to log them in my paper log.
 
Same...some instructing jobs, SR-22 135 stuff, and insurance wants to know about TAA so I log it in a separate column.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
If you use a computerized logbook, when you define the tail # of the aircraft, you can usually tag it as complex/hp/tailwheel/taa/etc. Any decent logbook program will let you run a report based on those tags.
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Long ago, before PCs, I created a logbook program for an IBM mainframe. Later, a problem cropped up. The same aircraft was not "the same" after a given date. An STC and engine swap changed its horsepower. It's just one of those little oddities you need to plan for if you want your computerized logbook to suit your needs for many years into the future. Also, something I never encountered, and while a remote risk is that the same N number could belong to two completely different aircraft in different years.
 
Hi Thanks All,
Yes it seems that I may as well avoid it for now as I only have two empty columns and may need those as I progress. However I do want to back up my times on a computer in case , god forbid , somethign were to happen.

I can use excell or a spreadsheet but I was wondering if any of you use a free website. My instructor told me about logshare.com but also said that I will have to pay for the services soon (will be more than happy to pay for any service but I just can't atm)

I would really love to have my logbook info organized so that I can easily find obscure information for Iacra etc. Also I am just starting out and only have 178 hours so it would be best to do this as soon as possible before I get more time.

Which (if any) website do you use to back up and organize your information??

Are there any particular features which draw you to this website and if so what are they??

Thanks again , as always the help is always appreciated.
 
Hi All,
It just occured to me that I am posting a question which is basically asking people to talk about their favorie website for loogbook inforamtion storage, organization and access.

I believe that it is against forum rules to have information about other websites in order to discourage spammers etc.

I am sorry this just occured but I was not able to edit or delete (well there probably is a way I just could not find it). In any case thanks all for your answers thus far --please do not reply to previous post as I believe that it is against forum policies.

I apologize to the forum and members , I understand the need for the rule and will not break it in the future .

ADMIN: I am going to "report" my last post so that it comes to your attention directly and without hassle so that it can be deleted as soon as possible. Again I apologize for my ignorance on this rule
 
There are lots of threads about log book programs, spreadsheets, etc...

I keep track of TAA time for the same reason jhugz does: insurance & CFI requirements.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
If you use a computerized logbook, when you define the tail # of the aircraft, you can usually tag it as complex/hp/tailwheel/taa/etc. Any decent logbook program will let you run a report based on those tags.
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Depends. If the program defines aircraft by tail number, yes, it may allow you to tag such things as HP, complex, G1000.

Others define aircraft by type and an automatic tag for a C172 as having G1000 is probably not as good an idea.

Guy brings up one limitation in tagging TAA it to N-number. Another is the steam gauge aircraft in which you might add an aftermarket PFD/MFD set-up. Tagging it to the N-Number would result in false total.

You could go with a separate "type" - a 172G1000 as opposed to an ordinary C172. I've done that with my entries for the R-172K, separating the 195HP from the 210 HP versions into different types. But for the G1000, I chose to go with an independent Y/N field for G1000 rather that tag it to anything else.
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
Guy brings up one limitation in tagging TAA it to N-number. Another is the steam gauge aircraft in which you might add an aftermarket PFD/MFD set-up. Tagging it to the N-Number would result in false total.
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Well, I guess that might matter if I really cared that much. As there is no legal or regulatory reason for me to log TAA/HP/Complex time, I don't worry too much.
 
When did this category called 'TAA' come along? I've never heard of it before this thread.
 
Hacker15e said:
When did this category called 'TAA' come along? I've never heard of it before this thread.
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About the time Cirrus came along. I think it is a Cirrus sales pitch conspiracy personally...they call them "technically advanced" to make you think they are special. :rolleyes:
 
Hacker15e said:
When did this category called 'TAA' come along? I've never heard of it before this thread.
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I think Old Pete & shdw have the answer. For the record, a TAA is any aircraft equipped with an IFR approved GPS, a moving map display, and autopilot
 
Looks like it's just a fancy way of saying, "this is an airplane with cool avionics."

I read the AOPA Safety Foundation handout on TAA, and it just all seems a little strange to me.

The good thing is that the Safety Foundation makes a very important point that advanced avionics neither change how airplanes are flown, nor do they alleviate the pilot's primary responsibility to look outside while flying.
 
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