Shooting "The Teams"

GX

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Dragging the Blues from P-Cola to El Centro to wait out one of the hurricanes that blew through. Jeanie? Charlie? Ivan? ... What a year. Sorry for the poor quality. I was still shooting JPeg, and was learning ISO and Aperture.

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The T-Birds. Departed N. Island, and took them to Scott AFB for a show.

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Do they always fly in tight formation show to show?

I'd doubt they do except for photo ops like this, and coming in for the initial/break. Typically you do cross countries as a section in "ATC spread", or abeam, within a mile of each other. Somwhat modified to fingertip for 4 jets traveling in the same formation, with lead and -3 being about .5-.8 NM apart abeam, and -2 and -4 flying cruise off -1/-3 respectively, basically a little sucked within a couple tenths of a mile. Anything closer than that becomes really tiring after a while, especially trekking through large chunks of airspace where you need to use autopilot and break out charts/approach plates/etc while maintaining formation. Flying close parade formation requires pretty much all of your attention most of the time, and requires constant stick and throttle work. That and penetrating weather with much more than sections becomes a circus really quickly. Technically, no more than 2 aircraft are allowed into IMC together in formation per USN/USMC regs, though on occasion you will end up briefly doing it through thin layers with 4 if it isn't really hard IMC and the situation dictates. I'm guessing the AF does things in a similar fashion, though I could be wrong. We normally brief splitting up into sections for approaches if the weather is IMC, and we will further break into singles if the wx is below circling mins or 1000' (whichever is higher)
 
I'd doubt they do except for photo ops like this, and coming in for the initial/break. Typically you do cross countries in "ATC spread", or abeam, within a mile of each other. Somwhat modified to fingertip for 4 jets, with lead and -3 being about .5-.8 NM apart abeam, and -2 and -4 flying cruise off -1/-3 respectively, basically a little sucked within a couple tenths of a mile. Anything closer than that becomes really tiring after a while, especially trekking through large chunks of airspace where you need to use autopilot and break out charts/approach plates/etc while maintaining formation. Flying close parade formation requires pretty much all of your attention most of the time, and requires constant stick and throttle work. That and penetrating weather with much more than sections becomes a circus really quickly. Technically, no more than 2 aircraft are allowed into IMC together in formation per USN/USMC regs, though on occasion you will end up briefly doing it through thin layers with 4 if it isn't really hard IMC and the situation dictates. I'm guessing the AF does things in a similar fashion, though I could be wrong. We normally brief splitting up into sections for approaches if the weather is IMC, and we will further break into singles if the wx is below circling mins or 1000' (whichever is higher)

Thanks! That's what I was thinking, but then I wasn't sure. Obviously there specialty is tight formation flying, didn't know if they would use the flights between shows to keep the formation work tight or relax a bit.

Either way, every time I see them perform I am awed by their skill. The precision they fly with and how they are able to pull it all together, each week, in new locations flawlessly (from the viewers perspective) is amazing. It would be great if they would offer up "press rides" to the general public. I,d buy many tickets for that prize.
 
When they flew into the tanker, they were lined up in a loose formation with 1 & 2 paired up, 3 & 4, and 5 & 6 in loose 2 ships. Loose being relative, of course. They joined on each wing, in 3's. 5 & 6 were split, but joined on each other when 6 was finished. I believe it's called "pre-contact". From there, they formed up, and did the group shot with with smoke. They formed back on each wing, and rotated through. Hard to estimate time because we were busy, and the experience is so awesome.

When they departed the tanker, they were in a loose formation in pairs, like they showed up.

I'll attach pics shortly...
 
Nice, pretty cool shots. I bet they don't have very long legs with no external tank. I know the blues wouldn't get too far, aside from maybe being a little less draggy with the snazzy paint job and lack of some internal weight that fleet jets have.
 
Nice, pretty cool shots. I bet they don't have very long legs with no external tank. I know the blues wouldn't get too far, aside from maybe being a little less draggy with the snazzy paint job and lack of some internal weight that fleet jets have.


They didn't. For the trip to El Centro, we (2 MSNG 135's out of Key) picked them up over Meridian, tanked them to Houston, or San Antonio, dropped them off, and had another tanker pick them up over El Paso to drag them to just beyond the AZ/NM border. ;)
 
Wow! Talk about some fantastic photos!! I cannot believe how close the fighters are under the boom! Man, that is precision flying! It's just perfect! Must be really something to see/experience that in person. Makes one damn proud of our military. I sent a link to my grandson and he called me on the phone so excited. lol He especially liked the two photos of the pilot in his cockpit waving. I like the livery on those planes too..........very cool! Really beautiful shots, thanks so much for posting them. I would never get to see anything like this otherwise. Just great!
 
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