Shiny-TurboProp-Syndrome
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falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
Basler! They know chicks dig BETA! :nana2:
SIUav8er
Narcosis
Fly a Shiny jet? i dunno...
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
The only way to determine if you have shiny turboprop syndrome is to decide if you would be willing to fly that airplane for a fraction of what your comrades fly an airplane of similar gauge for.
For example, if that airplane is a 19 seat turboprop (regardless of the year of it's production) and you are willing to fly it for less than what Colgan (for example) pays its 1900 drivers, then yes -- you have STPS.
It's not about the plane people. It's about doing more for less.
The CRJ900 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than DC9-30 payrates is wrong.
The EMB195 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than 737-200 payrates is wrong.
The EMB145 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than F28 payrates is wrong.
SJS is real.
For example, if that airplane is a 19 seat turboprop (regardless of the year of it's production) and you are willing to fly it for less than what Colgan (for example) pays its 1900 drivers, then yes -- you have STPS.
It's not about the plane people. It's about doing more for less.
The CRJ900 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than DC9-30 payrates is wrong.
The EMB195 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than 737-200 payrates is wrong.
The EMB145 is a fine airplane. But flying it for less than F28 payrates is wrong.
SJS is real.
mtsu_av8er
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BajtheJino
I'm looking at you.
Whats the name on the side of that bird? Can't make it out.
BenWlson
Well-Known Member
Yes.. but I didn't think it made as good of a thread if I admitted to having Loud-Oil-Dripping-Bare-Polished-Aluminum-Conventional-Gear-Radial-Engine-Syndrome.. I might even pay for a "Transition Course" and under-cut the next guy to fly one of those.
BenWlson
Well-Known Member
Basler Turbo Conversions - Oshkosh, WI.
They're on the north end of the airport there at Wittman Field (KOSH). There was a time when they were buying every DC-3 they could get there hands on and converting them like this.
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
That would be a tougher comparison. With very few exceptions airline schedules are comparable. Lifestyle doesn't enter into the equation. A 4 day trip is a 4 day trip.
I believe our fleet pays industry average for Lears but if it is a little low we would have to make adjustments for the fact that we are all Captains (co-captain crews), we're home most every night (maybe a dozen overnights a year (not including FSI), etc.
I came here for the lifestyle -- home every night to watch my kid grow up -- not the money.
I chased shiny jets and dirty turboprops at a variety of airlines for 12 years before I ended up here.
mtsu_av8er
Well-Known Member
So, using your exact logic . . .
If somebody went to an airline for the lifestyle, and they weren't in it for the money, then it doesn't qualify as SJ(or TP)S - correct?
ZapBrannigan
If it ain’t a Boeing, I’m not going. No choice.
Interesting question. Not sure who would do that... Maybe someone with a hotel fetish.
But before I even enter into the argument it would require you to prove that my company pays its pilots less than some other Fortune 500 flying the same equipment.
If you prove that true then i'd probably be willing to concede defeat. But I still believe that our definitions of SJS are apples and oranges. I believe that the pilot who willingly pursues employment or bids equipment that pays subpar wages/workrules purely in the interest of supposed career advancement is suffering SJS.
If I accepted substandard pay for this job -- and again it's a harder argument simply because part 91 corporate jobs are few and far between (it's unlikely that you would have a choice between two) it had more to do with the stability of the company, the lifestyle offered, etc.
I was not advancing my career -- if anything I was taking a hard left-turn from my original career track and CHOSE to stay here rather than go back to US Airways and (at some point) make more money.
If anything I believe I have discovered the CURE for SJS -- time at home.
And Doug -- don't fool yourself. The only difference between this website and Flightinfo.com is that you don't have as big a fanclub there. (Unless your name is General Lee...) :laff:
