DPApilot
GUYSH! GUYSH! GUYSH!
You're getting soft in that old age...
SFO Catering Meltdown
- Thread starter ChasenSFO
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Soul Brotha'
Off to go do Black guy stuff
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I think the philosophical difference between us is that I want all my pax happy INCLUDING the "HVCs."
There's a reason that I like WN, and there's a reason I tried to get on there.
As far as what business I'm in, if I take care of one, I take care of all. I don't care about their social status or level of privilege—it is my responsibility to keep them safe, on time, and, ideally, happy.
But I recognize that none of this will penetrate the nose-held-high groupthink, and I'm really not excited about going around in circles on this score.
I can't get three days off in a row, I sure as hell can't fly to another country. But tell me why I should empathize with them more than the poor bastards stuck in seat 128F? Conceptually, I get that on long-haul routes, the premium seats allow the cheap seats to fly for the price they do (in theory), but I also recognize that corporate load planning calculations are a lot more complex and nuanced than pilots account for.
But again, well, well above my paygrade.
100%. Absolutely. Hell yes. That said, I haven't personally taken any catering delays. Usually when I get delayed and people misconnect, it's because there was flow and $PARTNER stole our slot for another flight. I do a lot of cleanup flights in my current spot, so half the battle is trying to get or stay on time.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Ok. Kinda weird you carry so much disdain for the people paying the most to occupy space on the aircraft and don't see a problem in that lol. A Polaris passenger on a long haul may very well do more for UA than if everyone in economy on one of your shorter flights in economy class were to never fly UA again. How do you think everyone who paid an arm and a leg for a transcon experience or longhaul flight is going to be satisfied knowing until mid July, this is the UA SFO product?
It personally pisses me off tho as I logged into an empty interview room with these clowns for a position that was created FOR THIS TRANSITION and wanted people who have airline management, ramp operations, worked with United Airlines/Express in various capacities AND ramp tower experience since they post an ops guy in SFO Tower G that you'd be the boss of. Real professional company, LSG SkyChefs. Looks like the people they went with did a great job.
But I learned airlines don't like it when you tell people on the conference calls that plans are impossible, short sighted, or just suck. They want people who say yes AND take the fall both. The silence was deafening when I was asked to "own up" to a "failure" in an impossible situation by some dude in ATL when I was at DL SMF who I guess is important enough that when i said "So what would YOU have done with these resources in this situation? Because I'm pretty sure it was impossible. " everyone gasped like I gave him "the bird". That is why nothing gets done, the truth hurts feelings and these "suits" are fragile. Great corporate world we live in. Probably would have been let go the second I gave my 2 cents. At SFO I watched every person in any position of power with my vigor, passion and vision end up leaving after being beaten down, ignored, and often humiliated. The people as dumb as bricks who say the right things keep climbing the ladder.
Like Derg alluded to, I think our future is a lot more stuff like this as the people who can make a difference play the game instead and choose self preservation.
It personally pisses me off tho as I logged into an empty interview room with these clowns for a position that was created FOR THIS TRANSITION and wanted people who have airline management, ramp operations, worked with United Airlines/Express in various capacities AND ramp tower experience since they post an ops guy in SFO Tower G that you'd be the boss of. Real professional company, LSG SkyChefs. Looks like the people they went with did a great job.
But I learned airlines don't like it when you tell people on the conference calls that plans are impossible, short sighted, or just suck. They want people who say yes AND take the fall both. The silence was deafening when I was asked to "own up" to a "failure" in an impossible situation by some dude in ATL when I was at DL SMF who I guess is important enough that when i said "So what would YOU have done with these resources in this situation? Because I'm pretty sure it was impossible. " everyone gasped like I gave him "the bird". That is why nothing gets done, the truth hurts feelings and these "suits" are fragile. Great corporate world we live in. Probably would have been let go the second I gave my 2 cents. At SFO I watched every person in any position of power with my vigor, passion and vision end up leaving after being beaten down, ignored, and often humiliated. The people as dumb as bricks who say the right things keep climbing the ladder.
Like Derg alluded to, I think our future is a lot more stuff like this as the people who can make a difference play the game instead and choose self preservation.
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The specific image in my mind was a slightly over-hit pass on a volleyball court, but good enough.
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If I didn't despise rich people, I'd probably have gone corpo. And hey, we're lucky I'm FFD trash I guess.
But possibly not for much longer.
CFIT99
I'm probably commenting ironically...
Ugh agreed…..oh good oatmeal, just heat it up and throw it away
CFIT99
I'm probably commenting ironically...
321T flights are legit…but as a DFW based bro, I see those once a year
CoffeeIcePapers
Well-Hung Member
That packaged bread thing they serve with the oatmeal is a window maker. Horrible ingredient list.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
I had some enchiladas the other day on my flight out of Miami. They were pretty good.
Minuteman
I HAVE STRONG OPINIONS ABOUT AUTOMOTIVE LIGHTING!
"Gate Gourmet, a food catering company at San Francisco International Airport, is laying off 835 workers after the “recent loss of a customer account,” according to a state filing Wednesday.
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Unite Here Local 2, the union that represents most of the affected workers said a different food vendor, LSG Sky Chefs, is expected to be the new vendor and rehire workers."
Richman
JC’s Resident Curmudgeon
Welcome to corporate America.
One day, hopefully soon, someone will invent Mr. Fusion and the Shipstone, and actually be intelligent about it. They’ll just be an everyday Jane or Joe, fly under the radar, outside the influence of the media or Wall Street. Start up the business is Nebraska, Kansas or some out of the way place that the Illuminati considered “fly over country”.
And they’ll change the world. And everyone else will be left, gasping like beached fish.
And I will cherish that moment.
That’s my head canon, anyway.
DPApilot
GUYSH! GUYSH! GUYSH!
Where is that philosophical difference in what I said? You’re the one that called out your HVC, whereas I said I want the pax happy, with an emphasis on the HVC. Putting an emphasis on HVC’s doesn’t mean forgetting about everyone else. If anything, you singled out HVC’s as ones you don’t care for in your initial comment…. It’s a bit of a weird flex to try to construe that out of what I said.
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DPApilot
GUYSH! GUYSH! GUYSH!
That may be so, but a lot of them surely decide where those “rich people’s” money is spent. Hell, thanks to you I’m not just a customer
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
The number of times I've occupied a 1st class seat with under $100 to my name is double digits for sure LOL I got zero dollar paychecks a few times for trading most of my shifts during some periods and payroll deducting travel. That was far from unheard of making $11/hr 24 hours a week back then at OO. Though I've done that on Virgin America as a paying pax for sure haha.
We had a tray in the ramp tower marked "TPS reports" where we put the busy work the airport gave us would go to be collected.
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ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Oddly enough, everyone I knew at Gate Gourtmet stayed. I get Delta and Air Canada 1st class meals fairly often whenever I give one of them a ride home. Life there got better post-United now that there is no complex hub operation to deal with. 3 people I knew there who stayed all got promoted, I think they all make 6 figures too. I don't know anyone at LSG, I know several people they never got back to for driver interviews, despite advertising mass hiring.