Sex offender working as a CFI

Maximillian_Jenius said:
I don't know if anyone refuted you but this stuff needs to stop, like seriously. Being a pedophile isn't a sexual orientation. Pedophilia is rape pure and simple, and rape is about rage, power and control.
Rapist are sexual predators. Predators in the wild hunt for the weakest of prey. You do not see I lioness running down the Alpha male/female of a gazelle herd leading the stampede. No they select their prey from the stragglers, the weak, old and the infirm holding up the rear.

Likewise the same with human predators. They go after the weak, old and the young. They're not gonna go after the most popular guy/girl in school. No they're gonna go after the loaner/outcast who has no friends

Rapist/serial killers et al. are sociopaths, they have no empathy and are very narcissistic in nature. Sociopathy is an Axis II disorder. All Axis II disorders are created, and aren't born to a person like an Axis I disorder, such as bi-polar disorder or schizophrenia. All Axis II disorder be it sociopathy,borderline personality, multiple personality disorder are born from abuse/trauma/neglect et al.

I work in mental health as a psychiatric tech and we have both a regular kids/adolescent unit and a juvenile sexual maladaptive unit. I see sexual predators on both units regularly, but of course more so the juvenile sex offender unit. These kids are predators pure and simple. At night they're on close observation because they will either try to molest their roommates in their sleep or slip out to do the same to a neighbor in the next room. They've been molested probably by adults other times by other kids who were molested by adults and are simply repeating the process from victim to perp. All or most sexual predators have themselves been abused, and thus their thinking is now maladaptive.

Examples:

I had an eight year old try to give me a hug once while working the unit, he was so adorably cute, he went from cute to monster in 2 seconds flat. When he told me he liked black penis because of the stereotype and that I could probably give it to him better than his 16 year old brother used to. And tried to give me his number and urged me to call him when he got out. When he flipped into monster mode he sounded more sexually experienced then me at 37. The other night we got a 14 year old how was forcing his 5 year old brother to give him oral and was screwing the family ankle bitter. We had an autistic kid who was 13 who had the mentality of an 8 year old on our unit because he was molested by his caregiver. Once again, there is evidence of the predator targeting the weak. These are but a few of my experiences.

But I digress. And will conclude with reaffirming that pedophilia is not a sexual orientation, it is a mental illness. Please stop think or believing otherwise. Thank you.
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If only it were truly that simple.

How does the fact that most sexual assaults against children are committed by a close relative factor into your thoughts here?

Also - where do you draw the line? If I were to hook up with a girl the day before she turns 18 I'm, according to your words, I'm a sociopath. The very next day I can walk into a business and pay her to take her clothes off for me, with no sanction or recourse. Is a 23-year old female teacher who is stalked and harassed by 17-year old male students a sociopath too? Is she the same as the guy who kidnaps a ore-pubescent child and commits horrible acts upon them?

I think your sociopath title is appropriate in a lot of cases - particularly the ones we don't hear about where the victim can't say anything because the sociopatch is their parent.

And what about the marketing firms that sexploitate children? Are they sociopaths too? If you own a toy shop that sells these, aren't you guilty of manipulating young girls to be sex objects too?

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I get your frustration, but I still see lots of gray - and lots of people who are guilty of crimes against children, even though we haven't classified them as crimes.
 
Murdoughnut said:
If only it were truly that simple.

How does the fact that most sexual assaults against children are committed by a close relative factor into your thoughts here?

Also - where do you draw the line? If I were to hook up with a girl the day before she turns 18 I'm, according to your words, I'm a sociopath. The very next day I can walk into a business and pay her to take her clothes off for me, with no sanction or recourse. Is a 23-year old female teacher who is stalked and harassed by 17-year old male students a sociopath too? Is she the same as the guy who kidnaps a ore-pubescent child and commits horrible acts upon them?

I think your sociopath title is appropriate in a lot of cases - particularly the ones we don't hear about where the victim can't say anything because the sociopatch is their parent.

And what about the marketing firms that sexploitate children? Are they sociopaths too? If you own a toy shop that sells these, aren't you guilty of manipulating young girls to be sex objects too?

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I get your frustration, but I still see lots of gray - and lots of people who are guilty of crimes against children, even though we haven't classified them as crimes.
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"How does the fact that most sexual assaults against children are committed by a close relative factor into your thoughts here?"

Have you read The Sociopath Next Door? Not all sociopaths become the Bundy's, Damer's or Gacy's of the world. No they could be your lying cheating spouse, or colleague who stole your idea and passes it off as there's. Or your boss who's a coward but loves to humiliate his/her subordinates publicly for his own satisfaction. Funny uncle Roy could be a sociopath.

Also you're confusing the law with a mental diagnosis. If you're 18 and having sex with your 17 year old girlfriend the law says that you're an adult and she a minor. That's the law, not the DSM. So no in that instance one according to the psychiatric definition would not sociopath/pedophile.

A 23 year old female teacher in your example would be a victim, the 17 yr. old stalking/harassing her would sound to be the sociopath.
 
JJ8Flyer said:
Harvard disagrees with you- http://www.health.harvard.edu/newsl...h_Letter/2010/July/pessimism-about-pedophilia

Can you post something to back up your claim? Thanks for chiming in though, another angle is always appreciated.

And thank you and the people like you for working the position you do. I know I could not handle it.

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[quoteJJ8Flyer]Cite your knowledge if you can-

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/10618773/

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Why all the likes for his post? It was easy to poke some huge holes in it. Don't be sheeple.[/quote]

I know that the article said that it was a sexual orientation, but it's not. It's a classified in the DSM as a maladaptive psychiatric disorder. The article says it's a sexual orientation in one breath and then states it's a psychiatric disorder in the next. The fact that they list treatment methods seems to affirm what I and the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders) basically the psychiatric bible. Hold to be true, Harvard or not.

I'll assume that you're heterosexual, are you currently in therapy to correct your sexual orientation? Are there cited medical/psychiatric practices to correct your aversion? Is heterosexuality even a aversion? No, because being heterosexual is a orientation. Orientation goes far beyond just mere sex. It holds to attraction, gender and what sex you want your mate to be. Pedophilia however is a perverse attraction to youth, once a kid ages out the predator is no longer interested. That is not an orientation, that is paraphilia.

My information is academic having taken abnormal psych related classes, and annual state mandated clinics for work. But the bulk of my knowledge on the topic is from seeing the results of the disease first hand and watching the cycle of abuse. When this kind of trauma occurs the individual more or less becomes mentally frozen. Their brain becomes altered drastically due to the abuse. Axis II disorders are brought about by the mind seeking to protect itself from trauma. For instance take multiple personality disorder. If Frank is molested or see his mom killed Frank the original personality might not be strong enough to handle the pain. So the mind snaps psychotically, dissociates and creates "Ted", who's a more durable persona who can respond better to traumatic situations. Most likely with anger and zero emotions or empathy. So the two personas would go back and forth. When Frank became stressed, Ted would come out subduing Frank.
 
Pilot Fighter said:
Pedophilia covers such a broad range of behavior that it is almost meaningless. It ranges from those that pursue relationships that were perfectly legal and accepted 75 years ago but are now considered statutory rape to those that prey on infants. It ranges from those that never act on their impulses to those that are serial rapists.
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As I said to someone else on here, you're kinda confusing the law with a psychiatric disorder. An example was made that someone was peeing on their fence in their own yard and is now classified as a pedophile. That's a legal thing. Someone who fascinates about having sex with middle school age girls/boys. Likes kiddie porn and eventually graduates to the next step of molestation or kidnapping is a person with a severe psychiatric disorder and also a pedophile.
 
Ok, I can accept that as one possibility. I have trouble dismissing something published by Harvard, as well as others, because someone else said so without showing verifiable facts on the matter but I will take that for what it is. This topic is not something I have studied as extensively as you and I do appreciate the input.

So what do you think this mans chance of offending again are, given he is flying with teenagers occasionally?

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As far as I've read in this thread of references is that as long as the guy stays out of SIDAs unescorted he's good to go. I agree with you I wouldn't give my money to him or the business just out of principle. No I don't think the guy should be a CFI at a school where anyone including minors could walk in and ask for a lesson. As an independent CFI its debatable as its his own discretion to wether he takes a student on or not. It is very likely that a condition of his release/parole is restrictions on his ability to be near minors alone and in a C152 that's pretty blatant of a violation.

Is the business aware of his past conviction? If yes then what if anything would they say to someone bringing their young son in for his first lesson? I'd be pretty pissed if some school did that to me.

Somebody said earlier about him flying freight as an option. The SIDA exemptions rule that out so really as far as I'm concerned unless this guy just flys for pleasure on his own privately aviation does not have a place for him any longer.
 
Look up what the DSM has to say about pedophilia, again it's the psychiatric bible. Not Harvard. Do your own research if you're interested.

As for your co-worker and if he'll molest again. I'm not credentialed to assess, however from what I know in most cases of pedophiles they can't be rehabilitated. Hypothetically, I doubt that if a pedophile were to molest again that it would actually be in the plane. But the plane could be used as an environment to groom and test the boundaries of what he can do and where he can go and what he can get away with. Say maybe a touch on the thigh, rubbing of arms/shoulders Showing pornographic pictures et al. If he's quickly rebuffed he'd stop, but if he was met with little to no resistance. Green light baby and all illegal activity would then most likely occur in a place that the predator would feel safe and secure and have no worry of interruption.

Again this is all hypothetical and not specific to the guy in question, but what a pedophile in general might do in this type of situation
 
Hacker15e said:
Or, perhaps, it is because he has Autism.
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He was raped/molested because he was autistic. He was weak and would present as a less than credible witness, because he couldn't talk. The parents noticed something was up because he the kid was angry and became violent. And threw a fit when the guy came over and they prepared to leave for work.

So they wired the house with hidden cams and caught the scum bag red handed.

The young, social outcast and the young mentally ill. Pedophile goldmines. They're prey perfect to force to submit to their will because they're helpless.

In older adults it's often the same for serial rapist. Dementia or Alzheimer patients are the perfect prey. Or just older in general because they're not as strong and unable to fight back. These statistics are supported by APS (Adult Protection Services)
 
JJ8Flyer said:
Ok, I can accept that as one possibility. I have trouble dismissing something published by Harvard, as well as others, because someone else said so without showing verifiable facts on the matter but I will take that for what it is.
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To start off, just because Harvard publishes something does not in any way make it true.

In this case, the link was to a Harvard Mental Health Newsletter. A newsletter is typically not a forum for peer-reviewed research. The topic was speculation about upcoming changes from the DSM-IV to the next DSM as to the definitions of a disorder. That is not original research, it is not any sort of statement of fact, it is in no way authoritative. Drawing any conclusions would really just be taking something out of context.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
To start off, just because Harvard publishes something does not in any way make it true.

In this case, the link was to a Harvard Mental Health Newsletter. A newsletter is typically not a forum for peer-reviewed research. The topic was speculation about upcoming changes from the DSM-IV to the next DSM as to the definitions of a disorder. That is not original research, it is not any sort of statement of fact, it is in no way authoritative. Drawing any conclusions would really just be taking something out of context.
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Speaking of Haaaah'vid, I might take a run past it in a bit.

Da weddah heyuh is wicked nice.
 
Maximillian_Jenius said:
He was raped/molested because he was autistic.
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He was making a joke due to the ambiguity of this sentence you made....
Maximillian_Jenius said:
We had an autistic kid who was 13 who had the mentality of an 8 year old on our unit because he was molested by his caregiver.
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That could be taken to mean he had the mentality of an 8 year old because he was molested, not because he has auti...er, um, just forget it. It's funny until it has to be explained. :def:
 
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