Sending first student for Private Pilot Checkride
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Sosee
1 of 3 Green aint too bad.
Exactly. I love my Examiner and I use him exclusively. I trust him implicitly to administer a fair checkride no matter what....but I also trust him implicitly to make the experience both fun and extremely educational for the applicant.
No matter how sharp my student might be, he always finds just the right subject to teach a few things to the applicant. Even though the applicant executes a particular maneuver within the PTS limitations, he will invariably show him how to do it even better. Especially with slow flight, almost all students don't get close enough at all to the minimum controllable speed and the examiner simply takes the controls and shows them how simple it is to take the aircraft right to the absolute minimum controllable speed. Then he has them do it and if necessary even follows along on the controls to insure they get it down correctly. By the time he's done, the applicant leaves with very high confidence that he has improved his skills even further and is prepared to deal with bad situations even better than he was going in. You really cannot put a price on that.
moxiepilot
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Well, maybe about $400, give or take...You really cannot put a price on that.
WS
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CASH ONLY! No Checks!Well, maybe about $400, give or take...
TWP
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I'm pretty sure it's not taxed anyways. Being an examiner is a sweet gig!
TWP
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I think my local DPE told me it isn't taxed, I don't know the reason though.
WS
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Well, it is pretty much the what that entire task in the PTS is based on. One trap that I have admittedly found myself in is teaching students the contents of the regs, like ATOMATO FLAMES, but not where to find that information in the regs.. If they understand 91.213, even if they forget some of the items, they should be able to look it up.
It does however seem that every examiner has their own little areas that they emphasize more heavily, and some are just more anal retentive than others. If applicants were held EXACTLY to the PTS, line by line and failed at the first issue found, I doubt that anyone would pass any check-ride, EVER! For example, I have yet to see a student on a stage check at my 141 school that could properly read a convective outlook chart (which is specifically listed by the PTS), but most have good knowledge in all the other areas of weather. Of course I don't fail them just for that, but if I wanted to be a jerk the PTS does say that it is one of the products to emphasize so I suppose I could end it right there.
I think sometimes it's just the luck of the draw, which is why people often have a "preferred" DPE that they send their students to. That way they sort of get to know what that examiner is looking for and what areas they are less concerned about.
Sosee
1 of 3 Green aint too bad.
I know my "preferred DPE" places significant emphasis on 91.213 because he is trying to make sure that the new pilots he sees don't fall victim to shady maintenance practices which are all too common in a lot of rental fleets nowadays.
He basically tries to educate the applicants on what to look for and what to steer clear of so that if something bad does ever happen, they hopefully had the smarts to ask the right questions and verify the answers via the regs and logs.
I personally request to view the maintenance logs on any airplane I rent. On more than one occasion I have been refused with the usual excuse being, "the logs are up in our maintenance place's files".
Applicants especially should be wary of such behaviour in my opinion and the DPE agrees. The other reason is that sometimes applicants are also buyers and I think he just wants them to get decent airplanes.
He basically tries to educate the applicants on what to look for and what to steer clear of so that if something bad does ever happen, they hopefully had the smarts to ask the right questions and verify the answers via the regs and logs.
I personally request to view the maintenance logs on any airplane I rent. On more than one occasion I have been refused with the usual excuse being, "the logs are up in our maintenance place's files".
Applicants especially should be wary of such behaviour in my opinion and the DPE agrees. The other reason is that sometimes applicants are also buyers and I think he just wants them to get decent airplanes.