Second Officer

The world of the FE is still alive and well in TOL.

Tuesday through Friday we have about 25 daily departures/arrivals of DC-8s and 727s.
 
Which is the lowest workload aircraft for an FE? I hear that 727/747/DC-8 systems given when hey were designed need an FE worth his weight in gold at times - as the Airbus A300-B4 is the youngest aircraft which needs an FE (?) is that the one which gives the least hassle sitting sideways?

I think Tradewinds still flys them, not sure who else in the US.

Alex.
 
Ditto. Same with the dispatcher ticket. I just think it would be "neat" to have.

...then I opened the FE test prep book.:o

-mini

I've combed through the FE test prep as part of a systems class I had in college. It wasn't so bad. I studied it for about half a semester.
 
Ditto. Same with the dispatcher ticket. I just think it would be "neat" to have.

...then I opened the FE test prep book.:o

-mini

Get the dispatch ticket..1.) easier to obtain.. 2.) more marketable. The days of the FE are going away fast. I have an ADX ticket..It was far easier to obtain than my A@P .Not the exam itself just the time requirements.
 
I've combed through the FE test prep as part of a systems class I had in college. It wasn't so bad. I studied it for about half a semester.
I'll admit that systems never were my strength, but now that I know a little bit better how to study and learn an airplane...maybe I should re-take a look into it. Hmmmm.


Get the dispatch ticket..1.) easier to obtain.. 2.) more marketable. The days of the FE are going away fast. I have an ADX ticket..It was far easier to obtain than my A@P .Not the exam itself just the time requirements.
I just don't have the time to spend in class for it.:o If there were a home study course or if I could get a weekend course or even 3-4 days, I'd do it in a heartbeat.

-mini
 
Which is the lowest workload aircraft for an FE? I hear that 727/747/DC-8 systems given when hey were designed need an FE worth his weight in gold at times - as the Airbus A300-B4 is the youngest aircraft which needs an FE (?) is that the one which gives the least hassle sitting sideways?

I think Tradewinds still flys them, not sure who else in the US.

Alex.


The DC10 is the least amount of work for an FE. I was told once by a friend who was a DC10 FE that his primary responsibility was to keep the other two pilots awake and to turn on the brake fans if needed. The 727 was/is busy for the FE, especially in any sort of system abnormal or emergency. The 747-100/200/300 was also busy but a bit more civilized than the 72. I was a FE for 5 years and it taught me a great deal about the systems which helps me better understand them today. The FE duties typically include: fuel management, environmental controls, hydraulics, electrical system, checklist management, weight and balance, pre-departure inspections, log book management and general gopher duties like ATIS, coffee, flight plan calculations etc.....
 
I've combed through the FE test prep as part of a systems class I had in college. It wasn't so bad. I studied it for about half a semester.

I took the written a few years ago. I thought it was an easier version of the ATP written.
 
Who still flies the DC-10, I think Fedex are retiring theirs. There is Orbis of course. I've heard the Tristar is a damn well designed aircraft, so imagine the pilots enjoy that one - I think they still fly in AZ/NV occasionally.

Alex.
 
Who still flies the DC-10, I think Fedex are retiring theirs. There is Orbis of course. I've heard the Tristar is a damn well designed aircraft, so imagine the pilots enjoy that one - I think they still fly in AZ/NV occasionally.

Alex.

The only a/c that FedEx flies that uses an FE is the 727. All the remaining DC-10's that FedEx flies have been converted to the two man MD-10. As far who still flies the DC-10 well World and OMNI international still fly them as well as Arrow on the cargo side and I am sure I have missed a few but by and large an FE positions are few and far between.
 
Looking at the years, both the A300B4 and the 747-300 finished being peoduced in about '85 - still young aircraft, but both seem to have very few operators...

Alex.
 
Same for the DC-10 - oldest aircraft peobably '85 max. before they moved to the MD-10.

Oldest to require an FE? Boeing 247 or Avro Lancaster maybe?

Alex.
 
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