Screens go black!

Trim full forward, add full power, let go. Or if you are part of the greatest pilots on the planet, pull the return to taxpayer handle.
 
mrivc211 said:
Ok, now lets switch it up a bit. It's IMC, you've been given direct to a VOR prior to the problem happening.

Remember, you can't use the VOR's since they are displayed on the HSDI.
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This isn't a legit question.

All glass planes I have seen and/or flew had a backup airspeed, vor w/GS, altitude, and whiskey compass. All of which ran off standby power. I don't think feds would certify a plane without backups.
 
The only glass in the brasilia are the EFIS equipped airplanes, which only the HSDI and ADI are glass. As stated. Everything else are gauges.
 
VFR-Land the POS

IFR-

Shoot a VOR Approach or NDB Approach with the back up RMI, ground the airplane, go to the bar have a beer!
 
pa31350pilot said:
No need for a block altitude...they still have the altimeters. Then time to brush off the dust on the partial panel skills.
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Stick and rudder!!!:nana2:

It probably wouldnt be a big deal for a typed pilot.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
All glass planes I have seen and/or flew had a backup airspeed, vor w/GS, altitude, and whiskey compass. All of which ran off standby power. I don't think feds would certify a plane without backups.
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Even our standby instrument is glass. We've got that expensive little option of the glass standby instrument with a/s, alt, AI, LOC and G/S all in one. Had to do one ILS in the sim with 4 dark screens (still had the ED 1 and ED 2 screens, big deal). Best way to handle it (at least in my mind) is fly the approach and have the non-fly checking you with the standby compass (ie "2 degrees left....stop turn...one degree right....stop turn). Your non-fly sorta does the ASR thing for you, and it works on any kind of approach.

The odds of this happening in the CRJ are about nil, though. Even if we lost total electrical power, we'd still get screens on the CA's side. If you have to shoot an ISIS approach, you've had a REALLY, REALLY bad day. :)
 
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I actually had a scenario similar to this one. Not exactly the same but similar. I was the instructor on a KC-135 taking off out of Okinawa, Japan to go refuel some fighters in South Korea. My "co-pilot" was actually an aircraft commander who was getting ready to go to instructor school and flying in the right seat, after not having flown on that side in a number of years. IFR with thunderstorms in the area we noticed that his heading was displaying 11 degrees off from mine. We trouble shot the problem down and decided to re-align his inertial navigation unit. So my "co" turns the power to standby on the #2 INU (his side), but then put the #1 INU to align mode. Basically, he turned em both off, and we lost ALL of our navigation ability in the weather. We still had GPS and VOR signals coming into the airplane, but since all the heading info comes from the INU's the jet had no way to display the info. We were also down to our last backup attitude sources- the autopilot attitude gyro and the standy ADI.

Here's what I probably should have done: Requested no gyro vectors to an ASR, and declared an EP.

Here's what I did: knowing that we'd be without nav ability for the next 8 minutes while INU 1 was performing an airborne alignment, I told center we needed 20 miles left and right deviations for weather. I told my co to fly straight along the current heading off the whiskey compass (since our next turn was still a ways away), and I re-aligned INU1 and then INU2. We got all our systems back, and then I proceeded to belittle, make fun of, and generally browbeat the co!
 
Just fly it off the box. You can type, right? Even on back-up battery power only you've got gps info until you run out of juice. 35 Miles? Run the QRH until you get the airport in sight and clear for the visual. If it's low IMC at the airport, go somewhere else! And remember you have to actually fly now, since the AP isn't working, let the FO do all the other stuff.

p.s. That's why we aren't allowed to start the APU on taxi in, too. Stupid electrical system.
 
Man, the jet's electrical is soooo much easier. In the Bro, 35 out, VMC? Really not that big a deal. I'm not even sure I'd have the FO run the QRH that close. Vectors to the visual if you don't have it already (we can call it at 35 miles), get it on the ground and let maintenance deal with it. IMC? Still not that huge deal, yet. Yes, you've lost the HSDI, but you can still fly the VOR off the RMI. Run the QRH, see what happens and go from there. Either way, let ATC know what's just happened so you're covered.
 
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