S.3048, allows management to use CVR's against pilots!

saxman

Well-Known Member
Just got this email from ALPA. Figured I'd put it here instead the airline topics because this really affects all aviation. Pretty much they want to record us for everything we do and management can use anything we say for punitive measures. Send a short note off to your two senators and ask them NOT to support this.

This week, South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint introduced Senate Bill S.3048, which would require the monitoring of Cockpit Voice Recorder and Flight Data Recorder devices for the explicit purpose of reviewing pilot performance standards. This bill would also allow airlines to administer discipline, terminate or require a pilot to a proficiency check in the simulator based on CVR and FDR findings.

This proposed Senate bill is unacceptable and will do more harm than good. It will effectively shut down all communication in the cockpit because pilots will be fearful of the scrutiny faced on every word uttered in the cockpit. Your MEC, along with ALPA National, is issuing a Call to Action to let your Senators know that this piece of legislation is unacceptable. Click here to find your Senators and their contact information. Let them know that this will jeopardize safety and good communication and will hamper Crew Resource Management.

While you are contacting your Senators, let them know that you support the Jobs for Main Street Act (HR 2847), which will extend unemployment benefits. Many of our furloughed brothers and sisters are depending on their unemployment benefits because of the lack of available jobs. Let your Senators know that the extension of these benefits is vital.
 
Emailed both my Senators this evening. Even though I am not an airline pilot at the moment, I do not want to be my brothers and sisters subject to what will turn into a "witch hunt".

This one of those times when we all must put aside our differences and stand against stupid bills that would promote punishment rather than safety.
 
Knee-jerk reactions by the incompetent selected to lead us will in no way make a safer world. :rolleyes: Hopefully this gets flushed very soon.
 
This Sen DeMint(ed)* gives redheads a bad name.

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* yeah yeah, I know it was "ad hominem".
 
I e-mailed both "lawmakers" in the link in Prater's e-mail and I think this will finally be the push I needed to Back-the-PAC.

Before I could unfortunately talk myself out of it as I'm an FO at a vendor airline but I can easily find $25 or more as an employed, 2nd year single FO. I hope a lot of other people can do the same. Stuff like this bill makes me want to pack up my stuff and fly overseas, never to return. I know there are similar battles to be fought sometimes in that arena but the frequency of illogical propositions in the aviation industry is beyond words ever since the Colgan crash.
 
doubt it will do much good, but I sent both my demcratic senators a letter. Still waiting for responses on the last letters I sent them.
 
Attn skywest pilots

Feel free to donate to ALPA's Political Action Committee.​
March 3, 2010​
Dear ALPA Member,

I have some alarming news from Capitol Hill that I want to share with you immediately. I know you'll be as outraged as I am!
Legislation was just introduced in the United States Senate that will put our managements right in the cockpit with us on every flight we make. That's right.

The bill will allow airlines free access to the information on CVRs and FDRs
and to use that information ". . .to improve pilot performance. . ." and make
sure we, as pilots, are "performing at the highest levels. . . ."

In other words, the legislation will provide legal cover to management to review CVRs and FDRs for the purpose of prosecuting pilots.

Congress has put forth some pretty despicable proposals in the past, but this one may well take the cake! Here are the shocking details:

Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC), the Ranking Member of the Senate Aviation Subcommittee, is the ring leader. His bill, S. 3048, the Pilot Professionalism Assurance Act, wouldpermit airlines to freely audit CVRs and FDRs to:


  • discipline or discharge pilots or flight engineers,
  • evaluate and monitor the judgment and performance of pilots, and

  • justify or require pilots to submit to proficiency checks.
He’s already sent out a request, asking other Senators to sponsor his bill. . .and there may well be other anti-union sympathizers in Congress who will support this vindictive proposition!

His message stated,

"Unfortunately, all information from Cockpit Voice and Flight Data Recorders is specifically blocked from airlines by provisions within the pilot union contracts with the airlines. This must change. The stakes are just too high.”

If that wasn't bad enough, it continued,

"We must give airlines every tool available so they can ensure that their pilots are performing at the highest levels. . . ."

To make matters worse, DeMint’s staff is boasting that the NTSB endorses this approach to improve cockpit safety. In fact, that’s a bit of a stretch. The NTSB is calling for airlines to review and analyze all recorded information to identify safety trends as a way to watchdog the workplace, but notes that the reviews should be done anonymously and could not be used to punish individual pilots.

Despite the NTSB’s reassurances, this is a slippery slope that none of us wants to get near!

Is your blood boiling yet? Mine sure is. Can you imagine the problems and harassment S. 3048 could lead to? To say nothing of the impact it will have on our voluntary safety data reporting programs, like ASAP and FOQA. They’ll be destroyed and the accident investigation process will be seriously compromised!

But I agree with DeMint on one thing: the stakes are definitely too high – too high to allow this mockery of professional airline pilots to proceed.

I remember when a similar idea was proposed back in the late 1970’s. Langhorne Bond, President Jimmy Carter’s Transportation Secretary, called for random reviews of CVRs and FDRs by the FAA.

ALPA fought that deplorable plan with all its political might. Our lobbyists worked to convince members of Congress that the proposal was ill-conceived, unnecessary, and would seriously threaten the rights of pilots. In the end, because of ALPA’s efforts, Congress prevailed and the FAA scrapped the plan.

That’s exactly what we’re going to do this time, too. We will not be bullied and we will not back down. ALPA intends to use every weapon in our arsenal to oppose Senator DeMint’s disgraceful bill. . .and with your help, we will soundly defeat it!

We’ve already begun our work. Our Government Affairs team is educating Senators about the serious problems and potential persecution inherent in the intrusive and unfettered access provided in S. 3048. We’re urging our congressional allies not to co-sponsor S. 3048 but instead to help us quash this contemptible legislation before it gains any traction. We’re working with the congressional committee staffs to urge them to stay away from this impending landmine.

Now we must broaden our battle plan to involve all ALPA members, including you. Your active participation and that of every ALPA pilot is essential to defeat Senator DeMint’s plan to undercut our hard-won professional standards.

Today, I’m calling on you to help in the most effective way possible – by making a voluntary ALPA-PAC donation. Only with a strong and fully-funded political action committee will we have the political clout to stop this obscene proposal.

Please make a secure online ALPA-PAC donation today. Your contribution of $25, $50, $100, $200 or whatever you can afford will be used immediately to help halt Senator DeMint’s plan for pilots dead in its tracks.

Let’s be honest – money still talks in politics! A major reason that ALPA is able to ask for help on Capitol Hill is ALPA-PAC. But unless ALPA-PAC gets financial support from you and other ALPA pilots right away, we risk losing this fight – a fight literally for our careers.

We’ve also launched a nationwide grassroots Call to Action on S. 3048 to get every ALPA member to contact your U.S. Senators and tell them that you strongly oppose this misguided legislation. By using our Call to Action site, your Senators will be identified automatically. A prepared message is waiting for you to send. Just a few keystrokes will have your messages on the way to Capitol Hill to bolster our collective efforts to defeat DeMint’s bill. Click here to send your messages now.

But please remember your ALPA-PAC contribution – it’s crucial to our success. I know there are many demands on your paycheck. Our nation’s fragile economy makes us all cautious spenders. That’s exactly why you need to support ALPA-PAC – to build the strongest, most powerful PAC program possible to help protect and secure your career as a professional airline pilot.

Click here to contribute to ALPA-PAC now and make sure the voice of ALPA’s over 50,000 pilots is heard loud and clear on Capitol Hill on this latest assault on our profession.

We can’t do it alone here in Washington. We need your support and that of your fellow ALPA pilots. Like Senator DeMint said, “The stakes are just too high.” We cannot allow the Pilot Professionalism Assurance Act to become law and make a sham of our great profession. I’m counting on your help. Don’t let me – or yourself – down.

In Solidarity,
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John H. Prater
ALPA President
ALPA-PAC Chairman
 
Apparently it will be a $2000 fine and up to 5 years in prison and revocation of your certs if you do that (pull the breaker).
 
SEC. 3. TAMPERING WITH COCKPIT VOICE RECORDER OR FLIGHT DATA RECORDER PROHIBITED.

(a) In General- No person may tamper with, disable, or destroy any cockpit voice recorder or flight data recorder installed on a commercial aircraft.


(b) Penalties-

(1) IN GENERAL- Any person who violates the prohibition described in subsection (a) may be fined up to $2,000 and imprisoned for not more than 5 years.


(2) COMMERCIAL PILOT- If a commercial pilot violates the prohibition described in subsection (a)--

(A) the air carrier employing such pilot shall immediately terminate such employment; and


(B) the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall immediately revoke the airman certificate issued to the pilot under section 44703 of title 49, United States Code.
 
(2) COMMERCIAL PILOT- If a commercial pilot violates the prohibition described in subsection (a)--

(A) the air carrier employing such pilot shall immediately terminate such employment; and


(B) the Administrator of the Federal Aviation Administration shall immediately revoke the airman certificate issued to the pilot under section 44703 of title 49, United States Code.


Now they are telling the employer that they have to terminate the pilot?!? Are we becoming a communist country? I think this guy is on drugs. Who does he think he is. If the bill was for not letting the airlines get ahold of it, maybe, just maybe (on a real slim junk hair). But useing it to punish pilot's. This guy is effin crazy. No, no NO! NO DAMNIT!
 
All ALPA members should send a contribution to ALPA-PAC right away. Money speaks in Washington.

You pay unions, then when you want something done you have to pay more.

Isn't that sort of like paying the mob for 'protection'?






Ok, I'm going to duck my head and hide now....
 
You pay unions, then when you want something done you have to pay more.

Isn't that sort of like paying the mob for 'protection'?






Ok, I'm going to duck my head and hide now....

Union dues do not go to political funds. I prefer it that way.

The political action committee is kept separate. ATN Pilot can explain much more.
 
You pay unions, then when you want something done you have to pay more.

Isn't that sort of like paying the mob for 'protection'?






Ok, I'm going to duck my head and hide now....

Or you could be like Skywest pilots and no do anything but ride coat tails.
 
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