Runway Incursion at JFK Last Night.

Glad I wasnt on that flight, as I use that one B6 1295 to commute. they didn't block in till nearly 4am!
 
Runway incursions are pretty spooky things.

This remains one of the most scary things I have witnessed. We were a few airplanes behind company waiting to take off.

 
Runway incursions are pretty spooky things.

This remains one of the most scary things I have witnessed. We were a few airplanes behind company waiting to take off.


Isn't there a bit of a hill on 18L so Blue Streak wouldn't have seen that Pilatus until they had crossed the Rwy 23 intersection?
 
Runway incursions are pretty spooky things.

This remains one of the most scary things I have witnessed. We were a few airplanes behind company waiting to take off.


That is scary. Local controller thought she was cocking and locking someone at the end.
 
Are there inspections required after a rejected takeoff? Why did it take three hours before the plane was able to leave (cleaning out shorts?).
 
Isn't there a bit of a hill on 18L so Blue Streak wouldn't have seen that Pilatus until they had crossed the Rwy 23 intersection?

Yes, although you can see a small jet's tail over it (I hummed the Jaws theme a few times while watching a Falcon cross down field) but probably not a small tprop.
 
Are there inspections required after a rejected takeoff? Why did it take three hours before the plane was able to leave (cleaning out shorts?).

My guess would be a crew swap, and a lot of paperwork. I am sure somebody will chime in that knows more, but I highly doubt they would let a crew that high speed aborted due to a runway incursion, continue the trip.
 
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My guess would be a crew swap, and a lot of paperwork. I am sure somebody will chime in that knows more, but I highly doubt they would let a crew that high speed aborted due to a runway incursion, continue the trip.
My first thought is review of brakes and cooling of them and tire wear.
 
Are there inspections required after a rejected takeoff? Why did it take three hours before the plane was able to leave (cleaning out shorts?).

Perhaps.

We have a post-rejected takeoff considerations guidance.

It all "depends".

But if I'm anyplace close to "not trusting a fart" after a fairly sporty RTO, I'm done for the day.
 
Runway incursions are pretty spooky things.

This remains one of the most scary things I have witnessed. We were a few airplanes behind company waiting to take off.


I've seen that before, but it looks to me like she was looking at the RJ short of 18L full length while giving the clearance sub consciously to the Pilatus at the intersection. It's always scary when one of these things happens, especially one which could have been prevented so many times in a few second period.
-Controller clears a Pilatus onto the runway while looking at an airliner.
-Pilatus doesn't question the lack of "At intersection Alpha" in the clearance nor read it back, the takeoff clearance just issued to the airliner holding on the runway full length issued just before, the instruction to hold in position because of traffic landing on a runway crossing BEHIND them, and doesn't look down the runway to see the RJ rolling.
-RJ doesn't question the position and hold, probably assumes it was the guy behind them being cleared as it sounded like a full length clearance, even though it appears there was another RJ behind them.
-Controller doesn't notice what's happening until just before the alarm goes off.

Very scary, and those guys did an amazing job getting around the Pilatus and keeping calm and professional on the freq. Skin of their teeth, can't imagine seeing that.

I witnessed this from my parent's place up in the hills above SFO looking down at the airport. I glanced out the window from the living room and it caught my eye seeing the 170 rolling with a Brasilia not even thru the intersection. It seemed to unfold slow motion(I only saw the last 5 seconds or so) and from my angle above the airport, it looked like the Bro was going to roll by in time, but then it slammed on the brakes and stopped in the intersection, I couldn't believe what I was seeing and I was sure they were going to crash. When I saw the 170 climb away, it just didn't seem real and I swear what I saw didn't sink in until the first news story I saw that day. Met the Brasilia CA when I was working there(who was flying RJs by then)with my manager who had met the plane at the gate and got to hear first hand about the whole thing I witnessed before and after. Crazy stuff, I'll say there was a lot more anger in that Brasilia cockpit then the tapes reveal.
 
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But if I'm anyplace close to "not trusting a fart".

I think we've all learned that lesson the hard way.

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Perhaps.

We have a post-rejected takeoff considerations guidance.

It all "depends".

But if I'm anyplace close to "not trusting a fart" after a fairly sporty RTO, I'm done for the day.
Thanks for the info.

P.S. I see what you did there!
 
Wow. That Charlotte incursion was nuts. I am always scared about having something similar happen to me. Kudos to the crews for handling that well.
 
This is the one that still gets me. I get it's hard to see but my lord she just gets so frustrated and is in such a hurry she clears not one but two a/c while there is an a/c essentially on the active runway. It's like years of training just goes right out the window here.

 
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