RJs to Turboprop

heh I've only been told to slow down once for preceeding traffic. But then our home base has 152s flying in and out of it ... 'doh!
 
EDUC8-or said:
During an approach, most turboprops can keep up their speed faster and longer than a jet.


This is the main reason chicks dig turboprop pilots more than jet pilots :bandit:
 
Does the ban apply to Citations too? Saw one doing 110 on final the other day... I can walk that fast.
 
the only thing I've ever had to slow down and so S-turns for was a Premier I in ATL....

ATL Tower- "Candler XXX slow to minimum practical speed....50 knot overtake on traffic 2 1/2 miles ahead - Break - Beach XXX can you get off the brakes please???"

Candler XXX - "We can't go any slower sir...he's gonna have to pick it up"

ATL Tower - "Candler XXX, Do whatever you need to do - Break - Beach XXX
you better make taxiway Charlie"

It was very close to a goaround
 
FO_SHIZZLE said:
No worries, I'm sleepy in the bed when you're flying in there.
Ummmm sleepy. 4 in the morning and fighting storms in the NE hellhole. Sleepy sounds good.
 
Brazilian_Pilot said:
Those brand new prop driven aircraft look like they are going to fall out of the sky! :sarcasm:

I'm a huge turboprop fan, especially Dash 8s, but this thing really does look like it's going to fall out of the sky:


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The RJ is a premium product. The airlines just don't charge a "premium" for it.

I can see it now:

[picture of spiffy RJ on a jetway with pax getting on, everyone smiling and laughing, sun shining] "Annoucing new ALL JET service to XYZ! Come one, come all, book your tickets on our fast, quiet, and safe JET AIRCRAFT!! A $1 upgrade applies."

[picture of Colgan 1900 sitting on the ramp in State College, PA while passengers walk in 3 foot deep snow drifts in a blizzard] "OR you could fly on our Beechcraft 1900, a slighly used prop-JET for $1 less!"

Yep, people would save a $1 wherever they can. Even in the "good old days" money was still an object. I wonder if there were ever studies done showing if people would pick an RJ over a 1900 or DHC8 if it cost $XX more, etc. I bet not!
 
wheelsup said:
The RJ is a premium product. The airlines just don't charge a "premium" for it.

I can see it now:

[picture of spiffy RJ on a jetway with pax getting on, everyone smiling and laughing, sun shining] "Annoucing new ALL JET service to XYZ! Come one, come all, book your tickets on our fast, quiet, and safe JET AIRCRAFT!! A $1 upgrade applies."

[picture of Colgan 1900 sitting on the ramp in State College, PA while passengers walk in 3 foot deep snow drifts in a blizzard] "OR you could fly on our Beechcraft 1900, a slighly used prop-JET for $1 less!"

Yep, people would save a $1 wherever they can. Even in the "good old days" money was still an object. I wonder if there were ever studies done showing if people would pick an RJ over a 1900 or DHC8 if it cost $XX more, etc. I bet not!

I think most people would be willing to pay a buck extra for a jet on say a 200 dollar ticket, especially since it will probably get them there faster. I'd guess they'd be willing to pay about 5-10% more on most fares, if presented with the choice.

I'm sure you will all sit here and continue to hypothesize about how uneconomical RJ's are and how they're "killing the industry", but the simple fact is that there would be a whole lot more of them parked than there already are if they were really the black-holes you guys make them out to be.
 
E_Dawg said:
I just don't see how 210-230 vs 250 in a jet would screw the works in a crowded terminal environment.

If you slow to 210 without being asked it doesnt take long for new york approach to verbally tear you a new one and take you out of sequence for some reflection time.
 
Somebody once told me that they were able to get more in and out of ORD with the turboprops becuase they could do land and hold short operations a lot more. . .
 
There are niches that can be filled by both turboprops and RJs. All you're seeing is airlines being smart about it and determining which aircraft will work best for which routes.

No, the RJ isn't going to go away except on routes where it's just not economically feasible. And on those routes, it was going to go away anyway. It's just going to be replaced with a turboprop now.
 
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