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Doug Taylor said:
If, say SweetRJAirways was having problems staffing the airline.

If they gave a 25% across the board pay increase, improved duty rigs and added an extra week of vacation, the staffing problem would solve itself virtually overnight.
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I just don't think that is true. Some of the highest paying regionals with some of the best work rules are also having a hard time fulling classes. I think people just don't want to put up the the airline BS. Think about it most 135 guys never have to deal with TSA, sleep in their own bed most nights and make anywhere from good money to great money.
 
Doug Taylor said:
If, say SweetRJAirways was having problems staffing the airline.

If they gave a 25% across the board pay increase, improved duty rigs and added an extra week of vacation, the staffing problem would solve itself virtually overnight.
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I've noticed a few regionals make a small step in this direction in the past few years (A/E, Pinnicle, Piedmont, etc). Pay has gone up a little but nowhere near pre-9/11. What they seen to have done was get rid of the very steep jump in pay after your first year of reduced salary for training reimbursement and smooth it out over many years. I was working toward getting into the airlines before 9/11 and got turned off after seeing the pay cuts everybody took. I hope it improves.
 
Gonzo said:
I just don't think that is true. Some of the highest paying regionals with some of the best work rules are also having a hard time fulling classes. I think people just don't want to put up the the airline BS. Think about it most 135 guys never have to deal with TSA, sleep in their own bed most nights and make anywhere from good money to great money.
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Keep throwing money. They'll come, trust me.

Who wants to fly a riced-up 85 year old DC-10 in the middle of the night, with a bunch of junk in the belly and no stews to flirt with?

Lots of guys.

Why?

FDX pays mad loot, great work rules and respects their employees.
 
Troy said:
I've noticed a few regionals make a small step in this direction in the past few years (A/E, Pinnicle, Piedmont, etc). Pay has gone up a little but nowhere near pre-9/11. What they seen to have done was get rid of the very steep jump in pay after your first year of reduced salary for training reimbursement and smooth it out over many years. I was working toward getting into the airlines before 9/11 and got turned off after seeing the pay cuts everybody took. I hope it improves.
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At least on the regional level, a lot of those airlines were PFT outfits during the pre-9/11 heyday. Of course, that was before my time in the industry, but all that has gone away for the most part.

Gonzo said:
Think about it most 135 guys never have to deal with TSA, sleep in their own bed most nights and make anywhere from good money to great money.
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Talk to my friends who fly 135 bizjet charter. They might not agree with your post! One is a Hawker 800 captain, and the other is an Embraer Legacy FO; both have far worse QOL than I do, and I work an 18/12 schedule. :) As far as pay, well, it ain't too great either.
 
Troy said:
I was working toward getting into the airlines before 9/11 and got turned off after seeing the pay cuts everybody took. I hope it improves.
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Like any job (mine included), pay goes up and conditions improve when people are quitting, and no one else wants to work there.

As long as YOU (and others) are willing to put up your own money to get a job that you know is pretty crappy, it will never improve.

The only reason I have my job is the fact that both my employer and I know it would cost them more to replace me.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Again, it's not a matter of a depleted labor pool.

It's a matter of the availability of pilots that are willing to do the job at the current compensation.

Opportunity for career restoration? I think so.

Pilots recognizing that opportunity? I think not.
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Take a look at the 20+ page Commutair hiring thread. Tells you all you need to know about this.
 
MikeD said:
Take a look at the 20+ page Commutair hiring thread. Tells you all you need to know about this.
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CommutAir won't ever improve work rules and pay because they know pilots won't ever be there longer than 5 years or so. It's all a means to an end.
 
That's what they said about Mesa and now the most junior Dash captain at Mesa has 7-8 years seniority.

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SpiraMirabilis said:
That's what they said about Mesa and now the most junior Dash captain at Mesa has 7-8 years seniority.

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Well look at both pilot groups. Mesa has almost 1300 pilots on their roster with a few hundred still on furlough. CommutAir only has 180 pilots er so, with an pretty high turnover rate.
 
Tram said:
"Where you can do from Zero to Regional Hero in 7 short days!!"
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Maybe we can even get a "hero" picture of them sitting in the sim cockpit so they can post to their facebook as soon as they swipe their credit card.
 
ryan1234 said:
Maybe we can even get a "hero" picture of them sitting in the sim cockpit so they can post to their facebook as soon as they swipe their credit card.
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TRAM is CEO, I will take roll as El Presidente:bandit:, and you may have role as director of advertising:crazy:
 
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