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mrivc211
Well-Known Member
Don't question the Captain's decision. If the passenger would have gotten away with it, he is setting a prescedent(sp) that will open a never ending door. Others would have seen this and began to think its ok.
The fact that you can not recognize the potential or fall out from this worries me because if you are to be flying 121 in the future, your view upon this issue will turn this profession into GreyHound.
SpiceWeasel
Tre Kronor
Little birdy word on the street is that we're no longer allowed to have the "warning" card for the passengers because Delta doesn't want us to....
Douglas
Old School KSUX
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
What was accomplished by turning back to the departure airport that couldn't be accomplished by continuing on to the destination, having the police standing by, and letting the other 49 people get to their destination without trouble?
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
then why respond at all?
jhugz
Well-Known Member
For her to show how strongly she disagrees w/ the prev. poster without turing this thread into a poop slinging contest. I applaud her for it, because I know I sure wouldn't.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
How many stripes does your FA uniform have out of curiosity?
If he was ignoring something simple like "turn off the ipod", who's to say he wouldn't be up and about during some moderate turbulence, crack his head and then sue the airline?
No...going back is definitely the right call.
-mini
jhugz
Well-Known Member
Is it a hate crime to put you on my ignore list? I sure hope not because otherwise I'm going to jail.
BrewMaster
Well-Known Member
I think it's a matter of principle. Take him back once and teach everyone a lesson and hopefully it'll make people listen to flight crews in the future. That's the theory anyways.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
A320_DUDE
Well-Known Member
Hey,Hey,Hey...not ALL of our passengers are the "Great Unwashed".
But we do have the abilty to put people off anywhere, the company just asks that we leave them in a "safe" location.
But as Qgar stated alot of people don't want to be bothered which puts everybody in a bad position because if one gets away with it than everybody will think they can get away it.
I just hope the Captain doesn't get hammered for going back, you guys know how that can get turned back around on the crew.
granlistillo
Well-Known Member
I certainly didn't mean to offend. That said, the poster made a broad sweeping comment. I just meant to offer a counterpoint, that a failure of a captain to "act like a captain", may have other explanations besides he or she not being a wussy or lazy.
For the record, I am not criticizing this captain, who I may well have flown with before, for his decision - at all. I am fairly certain he will have a phone call over this, and most likely in the right.
For the record, I am not criticizing this captain, who I may well have flown with before, for his decision - at all. I am fairly certain he will have a phone call over this, and most likely in the right.
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
How can you deduce that being uncooperative about an ipod will lead to standing up during turbulence? People stand up and go to the lav all the time while the seatbelt sign is on, be it in turbulence or not. Is this grounds to turn the airplane back and land each and every time someone does it?
Qgar
New Member
"The poster," if you were referring to me did NOT make a broad sweeping comment. Go back and re-read. I said, SOME Captains. :whatever:
Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
I figured that's what it was. Not very mature though. Either say what you gotta say (constructively) or don't say anything.
That's just me though.
jhugz
Well-Known Member
Guess so...
No, but deliberate defiance of a crew member should be. No matter what the situation. It's not like a bus ride through the country. It's a freakin airplane, and the flight crew has rules to follow. If thats one of them (even if it is stupid), it needs to be followed. "But I only broke an in-signifigant regulation" doesn't sit well with most NTSB judges.
TFaudree_ERAU
Mashin' dem buttons
Then how deliberate does it have to be?
A: (Thinking to self) I'm going to sneak in one more text message before we take off, even though the main cabin door is closed.
B: (Thinking to self) I don't care that the seat belt sign is on, I'm going to get up and go to the bathroom.
C: (Boisterously) Eff you Miss Drink Cart B-word, I'm going to listen to my ipod whether you like it or not
Is A and B in any less defiance of a crew member? The safety briefing has been recited, the PA announcements made, and the rest of the pax are following the rules.
Every time a cell phone rings once the cabin door has been closed before departure, every time someone gets up to grab a book or ipod from the overhead bin when passing 10,000 with the seatbelt sign on, and every time someone flat out tells an FA to go eff them self, the flight crew is in defiance of the regulations for allowing the passenger to continue on the flight.