MidlifeFlyer
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From the sidelines, I don't think so. "Clearance" is a term that means something pretty specific in aviation and involves ATC using the word "cleared."
Restricted Areas
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It is and it is specifically required for entry to Class A/B airspace, landing clearance, LAHSO, and sidestep clearance for multiple runway ops. I am sure I missed a bunch, but these are the ones I can think of, restricted areas do not require the word clearance. However permission would imply similar to the same thing as the other type of communication is two way radio communications. The regulation here specifically says "permission" which implies needing essentially the same thing as a clearance, specific permission to perform a specific operation.
bLizZuE
Calling for engine starts en français
It's not really semantics.
You don't get a clearance to enter an inactive restricted are.
'Miami Center Cherokee XXX, is the 2901 complex hot or cold today?'
'Cherokee XXX Miami Center, 2901 is cold'
'Thanks'
Where in there did I receive a clearance?
You don't get a clearance to enter an inactive restricted are.
'Miami Center Cherokee XXX, is the 2901 complex hot or cold today?'
'Cherokee XXX Miami Center, 2901 is cold'
'Thanks'
Where in there did I receive a clearance?
MidlifeFlyer
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He's not talking about a hot or cold advisory. He's talking about permission to enter while it is hot.
It's still not a "clearance" any more than someone giving you permission to land on his private airstrip is a "clearance" (unless of course, they use the phrase "cleared into the r-2801 restricted area"), but he wasn't talking about the same thing you were commenting on.