Reserve (long and short call)
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flyboywbl
3rd regional in 1 year
At my airline Long Call means you have to check your schedule in the afternoon for trips the next day. If there is nothing posted then you have the next day off but you still need to check your schedule for the next day. This allows most people to stay at home and then commute in the day before for the trip.
Short call, for us, means you have 2 hours to report to the airport after they call you. In this case you must be within two hours of the airport. For most this means you must commute in the day before and stay in a crash pad unless you live in base. Commuting to reserve sucks, especially in NYC.
The crappy thing with my airline is that even if you are long call and they don't have a trip for you, they will just escalate you to short call so no matter what you still need to be in base.
If they don't have anything for you on short call, they will put you on ready reserve witch means you have to sit in uniform at the airport for 8 hours.
Again these are the rules for my airline but yours may differ.
PM me if you have any more questions
-Matt
Short call, for us, means you have 2 hours to report to the airport after they call you. In this case you must be within two hours of the airport. For most this means you must commute in the day before and stay in a crash pad unless you live in base. Commuting to reserve sucks, especially in NYC.
The crappy thing with my airline is that even if you are long call and they don't have a trip for you, they will just escalate you to short call so no matter what you still need to be in base.
If they don't have anything for you on short call, they will put you on ready reserve witch means you have to sit in uniform at the airport for 8 hours.
Again these are the rules for my airline but yours may differ.
PM me if you have any more questions
-Matt
SpiraMirabilis
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At Mesa it worked like this:
The minimum scheduling time period from when you are notified:
Airport Reserve: Be at the airplane within 15 minutes
Short Call: Be at the airplane within 1.5 hours
Long Call (hah, never got this): Be at the airplane within 12 hours
The minimum scheduling time period from when you are notified:
Airport Reserve: Be at the airplane within 15 minutes
Short Call: Be at the airplane within 1.5 hours
Long Call (hah, never got this): Be at the airplane within 12 hours
Autothrust Blue
”…trusting ze process…”
At a certain other large, bankrupt regional airline, all reserve is either 2-hour callout, or ready reserve, as assigned.
(For further details in how trips are awarded to reserve pilots, feel free to PM me.)
(For further details in how trips are awarded to reserve pilots, feel free to PM me.)
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
At Southernjets all reserves are long call with a minimum 12 hour call out. You can be converted to short call up to 6 times per month with a minimum of 10 hours of notification but all pilots can use the first 2 hours of short call for commuting purposes meaning it's really a 12 hour notice to conversion. The short call minimum time to report is not technically defined but 2 hours is the general rule of thumb. I've had them ask me to be there in less time and I've had to tell them it will take me more than 2 hours. It's a give and take with the basic premise being that you will be there as soon as possible. A short call period lasts 12 hours for domestic categories and 24 hours for international categories. The new rest rules will shorten the international short call periods to 14 hrs I believe.
Our new TA raises the number of short calls to 7 per month unfortunately. Yet another concession we made.
Our new TA raises the number of short calls to 7 per month unfortunately. Yet another concession we made.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Surprised you guys have a 24 hour short-call setup for international categories; that's something we fought hard to remove.
At my company, all reserve starts out as long call from home, 12 hour report, 2 hour response to the phone call, which can be put on your schedule for 24 hours in a row. Short call on the road is a 2 hour report, 15 minute response (30 minutes international), and can last up to FAR duty limits (though, the only short call I've ever gotten was for 12 hours).
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
24 hr short call pretty much stinks. It's the sole reason the 7ER category in NYC is so junior. I don't know the history behind the current setup but it's obviously not worth negotiating in thr current TA given the rest rule changes which fill "fix the glitch."
Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
Have you ever stopped and thought about the consequences of pissing off every Southernjets pilot who posts on this board or the unknown numbers of those who just stop by and read it? I'm sure there are people at just about every airline on here who will be more than happy to provide you with every networking opportunity they can think of to get you that Emirates gig in an effort to ensure that they never have to work with you. Put me down as one of them.
amorris311
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SpiraMirabilis
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Trip7
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Cav
Former Maddog Whisperer
I'm willing to guess that your arrogance and delivery offend more people here than your opinions. That is certainly the case with me. Your delivery discredits any point you are trying to make before you even present it. I have no problem with dissenting opinions when they are presented respectfully.
Trip7
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It's you guys that assume my delivery includes some sort of arrogance. I think it has more to do with disagreeing with the opinion of the JC clique. I've made the same kind of posts on APC and for the most part have a very good discussion.
Whatever slight you feel my delivery has, the ones against me have been worse, and I have no problem taking it.
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DE727UPS
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At UPS we have mostly short call. 12 hours on, 12 off. Most of the reserve lines work you from midnight tell noon but there are also noon starts and 4pm starts. They can't switch you from night reserve to day reserve and you can only work 3 hours past your call window. For example, if I was on call from midnight tell noon, and they called me 10am, they could only use me tell 3pm.
Long call reserve you have at least 12 hours to get there. The bad thing is they can use you for either a day or night trip that's open. If I'm doing night short call, they can't give you an open day trip the next day.
We get one less day off per month compared to a line holder but the two 24 in 7 breaks that a reserve gets is sort of like a day off. Problem is, sometimes you get you 24 in 7 break away from domicile.
I bid reserve that starts at midnight, week on, week off, out of ONT. It's the best staffed of the reserve lines so you work the least, in theory. It all pays the same and I work less than half as much as a line holder. I worked six out of eight this week but that's pretty rare. Two or three days out of seven or eight is more typical. We also use a system where the more you work, the less likely you are to get called. So, if it wasn't for the 4th of July holiday coming up, I'd expect not to do much that week because I worked most of this one. You can never be sure what's gonna happen around holidays, though.
Long call reserve you have at least 12 hours to get there. The bad thing is they can use you for either a day or night trip that's open. If I'm doing night short call, they can't give you an open day trip the next day.
We get one less day off per month compared to a line holder but the two 24 in 7 breaks that a reserve gets is sort of like a day off. Problem is, sometimes you get you 24 in 7 break away from domicile.
I bid reserve that starts at midnight, week on, week off, out of ONT. It's the best staffed of the reserve lines so you work the least, in theory. It all pays the same and I work less than half as much as a line holder. I worked six out of eight this week but that's pretty rare. Two or three days out of seven or eight is more typical. We also use a system where the more you work, the less likely you are to get called. So, if it wasn't for the 4th of July holiday coming up, I'd expect not to do much that week because I worked most of this one. You can never be sure what's gonna happen around holidays, though.
Nick
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Ordinarily I wouldn't even take the time to retrieve the quote but I read your reply to Cav and others and then I happened to log on to flightinfo for the first time in months to search for something, and one of the first things I see is a post of yours. I think it displays what others on here are talking about. Hey, they're just trying to help.
Enjoy the 20 year upgrade, #Boom ?
You don't think your delivery is a bit off?
Enjoy the 20 year upgrade, #Boom ?
You don't think your delivery is a bit off?
