pete2800
'Member?
Aww, come on... don't be so serious. My area of expertise is being overly literal. It's the internet, of course I think it's funny.
Republic letter to Pilots
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mastermags
Well-Known Member *giggity*
Id take federal prison over state prison.
Pilot Fighter
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Firebird2XC
Well-Known Member
Lobbyist includes us, you know. Just because we're not some professional full-time ass-kisser doesn't mean when we swamp Congressional offices with letters it doesn't matter.
The problem with American isn't that the people don't have a voice it's that they're not willing to speak loudly enough to be heard.
Taylor Glass
C152 Typed
Its like my grandmother used to say, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease." If we want something done, its time to get squeaky and speak up.
HVYMETALDRVR
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I guess their grand plan is to take the leases of the Mesa 170's off United's hands? Doesn't Mesa start getting these planes real soon anyhow? Seems a bit ambitious. You guys are dangerous...
Well, the deal is already inked and I can't remember the extra details... but I believe Mesa's agreement is for xxx airplanes with options for xxx more. I think we're going after the options, the truth is its United flying, they can do what they want with it. I don't know the timetable either, but Mesa is building they're 170 program from the ground up, ours has been operating for years. I don't have any beef with Mesa either, its the just the regional shuffle.
ComplexHiAv8r
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AOPA PAC? 8)Derg said:
jynxyjoe
Queso King
Im holding my breath for the ALPA PAC.
LOOK, LOOK! HE'S TURNING BLUE!
jynxyjoe
Queso King
It's just that I don't believe we would be able to raise the money needed vs the major airlines to buy the votes we need. I think they'd give it an honest go, but the ALPA Pac would need a huge groundswell of support translating to lots of dough. That seems equally unlikely.
With how well they've done for the regional industry as of late, they are about as useful as tits on a bull. See said email about a "pilot shortage.". If there truly was one, you wouldn't see Big Orange still asking for guys to pay for their own type, or require them to show up with it on the 135 side. It's a pay shortage to attract qualified pilots. And ALPA hasn't done anything for that. All the major players have made tremendous profits. It's come time to pay up, or restructure. And fast!
JOEFRIDAY2
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What is happening now is exactly what I have been talking about for the past 3 years.
I've said that 2 regionals will shut down in 2014 because they will not have enough pilots. That is exactly what is going to happen. Economics have finally come home.
A pilot can not invest $250,000 and several years to get his training and his ratings and his 1500 hours and then go to work for $20,000 a year. The numbers just will not work even using airline math.
It's time for the industry to get real.
I used to say a starting pilot should make $50,000 a year.
I've now changed my mind and believe a starting pilot should make no less than $70,000 a year.
Joe
I've said that 2 regionals will shut down in 2014 because they will not have enough pilots. That is exactly what is going to happen. Economics have finally come home.
A pilot can not invest $250,000 and several years to get his training and his ratings and his 1500 hours and then go to work for $20,000 a year. The numbers just will not work even using airline math.
It's time for the industry to get real.
I used to say a starting pilot should make $50,000 a year.
I've now changed my mind and believe a starting pilot should make no less than $70,000 a year.
Joe
Follow the dollars. Take a quick gander at the heaviest contributors to the PAC.
Oh, there is no denying that. The regionals don't have much to contribute. And it just goes to show the true intent of APLA PAC. To make money. When unions need end or at created, that wasn't their purpose.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Uh...
FloridaLarry
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Hvymetaldrvr said (in part):
Hope springs eternal.
Say what you want about JO being the reincarnation of Frank Lorenzo, the man does learn from his mistakes. He's filling classes with happy people, and he knows how vulnerable Mesa will be if they screw up service when they introduce the new Embraers this summer. They've actually been - gasp - planning!
Hope springs eternal.
Say what you want about JO being the reincarnation of Frank Lorenzo, the man does learn from his mistakes. He's filling classes with happy people, and he knows how vulnerable Mesa will be if they screw up service when they introduce the new Embraers this summer. They've actually been - gasp - planning!
You do realize that ALPA and ALPA PAC are two different "coffers" of sorts, yes?
I mean you can if you want to, but you can't both not contribute to a PAC and then complain how it's not representing your interests, but you'd like them to.
Plus, it's a great bully pulpit. I had a "problem" with someone on the MEC level and once I threatened to pull my PAC contributions, phones started ringing.