Republic Airways presents: Schedule your own interview!

So do they issue the hair gel, back packs and earbuds at the interview or during indoc?

Maybe instead of Starbucks gift cards they should hand out books on ethics and morals.

We had about 10 FO get SJS over the last year. They all went to Republic because after flying the Saab for a few months they thought they were astronauts and were too good to fly a turboprop.

All but one of them pretty much quit on the spot with about a days notice. Not classy at all. Some of the way these children bailed out is just down right disgusting. I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass.

The entitlement attitude of some of the children getting into this industry sickens me! I wish I could say it's going to get better but I doubt it.
 
Ha! Reminds me of a few years ago when we'd have pilots who hadn't even completed their commercial certificate that would thumb their nose at airlines with three year upgrade times.

"Too long!"

Well, for cripes sake, can you even pass initial training yet? You don't even have a commercial?!
 
All but one of them pretty much quit on the spot with about a days notice. Not classy at all. Some of the way these children bailed out is just down right disgusting.

I know, right! I mean, when the company wants to terminate you, they have to give you at least two weeks notice. Shame on them for not treating the company with a corresponding level of respect.

-Fox
 
Wouldn't surprise me. I have a feeling with the cut in UAL flying from CLE, we may see a displacement from the 145 to the 170 to cover their butts, but we'll see.
 
Wouldn't surprise me. I have a feeling with the cut in UAL flying from CLE, we may see a displacement from the 145 to the 170 to cover their butts, but we'll see.

That's the word we got from our union people today.

No pilot shortage, my ass! Lol
 
So do they issue the hair gel, back packs and earbuds at the interview or during indoc?

Maybe instead of Starbucks gift cards they should hand out books on ethics and morals.

We had about 10 FO get SJS over the last year. They all went to Republic because after flying the Saab for a few months they thought they were astronauts and were too good to fly a turboprop.

All but one of them pretty much quit on the spot with about a days notice. Not classy at all. Some of the way these children bailed out is just down right disgusting. I hope it comes back to bite them in the ass.

The entitlement attitude of some of the children getting into this industry sickens me! I wish I could say it's going to get better but I doubt it.
If the agreement was at-will... well then it works both ways.
 
That's the word we got from our union people today.

No pilot shortage, my ass! Lol

I'm currently based in CLE, just awaiting the fallout from the reductions when they happen. I'm still hoping for a DTW base with all of our DL 145 flying that we do out of there.
 
I'm currently based in CLE, just awaiting the fallout from the reductions when they happen. I'm still hoping for a DTW base with all of our DL 145 flying that we do out of there.

Well, hopefully it's not too disruptive for anyone, but I have to admit that whole scenario would tickle me, if only to see a FFD carrier regurgitate a contract less than a year from inception due to the PILOT SHOOOOORTAAAAAAAAGE!!
 
New word:

Republic has told AA they're two months from being in breach of contract for their -175 flying...

Staffing issues, and all that.

Gee.
Meaning they won't be able to staff to proper requirements set out in the contract? I'm on the Yx side myself. Just curious what it actually means.
 
Meaning they won't be able to staff to proper requirements set out in the contract? I'm on the Yx side myself. Just curious what it actually means.

I'm not really sure either, as all my information is second hand, but apparently the new -175 flying in ORD has been having issues and staffing is one of them. That, and we were told today by ALPA that Republic said what it did.

It's all just kind of funny to me... To watch airline managers all tripping over themselves.
 
I'm not really sure either, as all my information is second hand, but apparently the new -175 flying in ORD has been having issues and staffing is one of them. That, and we were told today by ALPA that Republic said what it did.

It's all just kind of funny to me... To watch airline managers all tripping over themselves.
The way I see it, with 41 145s coming off contract there shouldn't be a problem staffing them. It's just the interim time that is going to be the issue. So they will hire like gang busters and then in 12 months have to furlough.... I know that sounds crazy but look at the numbers. Unless there is new flying I don't see where they are going to put all of the CHQ guys. I am most likely wrong here... But just thought I would see what anyone else has to think.
 
I'm not really sure either, as all my information is second hand, but apparently the new -175 flying in ORD has been having issues and staffing is one of them. That, and we were told today by ALPA that Republic said what it did.

It's all just kind of funny to me... To watch airline managers all tripping over themselves.

It's not just the 175. The CHQ side is at Defcon 1 every day it seems.
 
The way I see it, with 41 145s coming off contract there shouldn't be a problem staffing them. It's just the interim time that is going to be the issue. So they will hire like gang busters and then in 12 months have to furlough.... I know that sounds crazy but look at the numbers. Unless there is new flying I don't see where they are going to put all of the CHQ guys. I am most likely wrong here... But just thought I would see what anyone else has to think.

Also a possibility. Who knows if our 50 seat contracts will be renewed or not. I'm leaning towards not.
 
Are these jets owned by RAH or AAL?
Interesting to see what happens because skyw and Mesa are still ramping up their programs.
AAL telling eagle to start a 175 program really might be their best recourse, because it doesn't seem like AAL has an alternative to taking what RAH gives and I doubt they like that much.
 
The way I see it, with 41 145s coming off contract there shouldn't be a problem staffing them. It's just the interim time that is going to be the issue. So they will hire like gang busters and then in 12 months have to furlough.... I know that sounds crazy but look at the numbers. Unless there is new flying I don't see where they are going to put all of the CHQ guys. I am most likely wrong here... But just thought I would see what anyone else has to think.

You'd know better than I. I've barely kept up with Eagle's fleet composition, let alone RAH's.

Hope you guys don't get boned too hard in the shuffle though. I understand displacement bids aren't really that agreeable there.
 
I know, right! I mean, when the company wants to terminate you, they have to give you at least two weeks notice. Shame on them for not treating the company with a corresponding level of respect.

-Fox

Small industry dude. Especially when there's only a handful of airlines that everyone is trying to get to.

I was raised differently and taught not to burn bridges.

Screw the company before they screw you is a terrible attitude. Probably why this industry is in the toilet.
 
Small industry dude.

Many are smaller than people realize. Common sense is an issue here, certainly, but I perceive far too much emotion. Be pragmatic.

I was raised differently and taught not to burn bridges.

(most) Bridges have two ends. Unfortunately, pilots swim across when business burns their end.

Screw the company before they screw you is a terrible attitude. Probably why this industry is in the toilet.

The industry is in the toilet because companies are screwing people preemptively, with no fox given. When you hire someone for a job making $20k, reserve the right to jack them around, move them across the country and then terminate their employment whenever you feel like it, you don't get to cry rivers when they respond in kind.

If you pay your people well, treat them well (I'm not saying your company doesn't, mind you—I don't know who you fly for, so don't think this is directed at you... merely the industry as a whole), and treat them like true professionals, then you do have a right to expect professional behavior in return. Otherwise ... really?

For the record, I am a professional. I wouldn't leave my responsibility hanging in any situation, whether I was getting paid $25 to ref a mini-mite game, $120 to ref a college game, $125 to show up to give my student a mock oral, $150/day flying 135, $24.52/flt hour as a regional FO, or $160k as a systems architect... but that's how I choose to be. I choose to enter into those commitments, and if I feel like I'm getting screwed, or the other party isn't adhering to their end of the deal, then I will exit them with proper notice... because that is who I choose to be.

However, from an objective point of view, employment is a simple business contract between two equal entities; one needs a job done, the other has the skills/equipment/knowledge/parts to do the job. Any concept of "loyalty" or "professionalism" is wholly one-sided, and is most likely being exploited by employers to their advantage. (That said, business can be loyal to employees and vice versa. In those unique arrangements, it is appropriate. (And boy am I always happy when I see that in action... but it's rare))

However, my issue with your statement isn't really addressed in any of our dialog thusfar—my issue is that you single out apparently bad employees, and blame them for the downfall of the profession/industry, when in fact it's most likely a very mutual affair.

In the tech industry, it's not unusual to hire someone and then lose them a few weeks later to a better opportunity. It's annoying, but it's understood—that employee should have been paid more, or more money/effort should have been spent in some form of retention. Perhaps the working conditions weren't what they expected, the terms of employment sucked, benefits weren't good, or they didn't like the fluorescent lighting. In some way, it's recognized that the issue is the company's failure to retain, not a question of the loyalty of the employee.

Many segments of aviation is so riotously backwards in that regard that it harkens back to the turn of the century... and I don't mean the 21st.

My 9¢.

-Fox
 
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