Regional Trash Thanksgiving Jumpseat

Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Hopefully my suggestion re: Fedex isn't cringy.


I like this sweet talk about employers and well being. I agree with it, and after all they are writing our checks. But lets not pretend that there aren't guys out there who sit there and keep track of their rolling 12 month sick callout calendar and take convenient sickations. Or guys who commute and get hosed due to weather, mx, etc, call in honest, lose their pay, get an earful, and then learn their lesson that if it happens next time: call out sick. For some, sick time is a game played in the rolling 12 month calendar. For others, sick time is a backup to a missed commute. And yes, sick time is also used for sick time itself.

Didn't Delta guys take a huge stand in regards to their failed TA about having to get doc notes for sick calls? No pilot wants to get a doctor note. But lets be honest, there are many times when a sick call isn't really a sick call.
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I thought the Fedex idea was a good one, and I'm the only one in my class of 8 that isn't going home. I think there are lots of new guys like me who might not know Fedex jumpseats are an option. Now I know for the future they'd be a safer bet than mainlines.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Hopefully my suggestion re: Fedex isn't cringy.


I like this sweet talk about employers and well being. I agree with it, and after all they are writing our checks. But lets not pretend that there aren't guys out there who sit there and keep track of their rolling 12 month sick callout calendar and take convenient sickations. Or guys who commute and get hosed due to weather, mx, etc, call in honest, lose their pay, get an earful, and then learn their lesson that if it happens next time: call out sick. For some, sick time is a game played in the rolling 12 month calendar. For others, sick time is a backup to a missed commute. And yes, sick time is also used for sick time itself.

Didn't Delta guys take a huge stand in regards to their failed TA about having to get doc notes for sick calls? No pilot wants to get a doctor note. But lets be honest, there are many times when a sick call isn't really a sick call.
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There are any number of reasons a pilot would call out sick without being "doctor sick" and having said sick call be 100% legitimate. So, how about you step off with that management B.S...or are you vying for a nice, new pilot-pushing desk job?!? :rolleyes:
 
Oh good lord. Why would I waste a doctors time with a sniffle, AND pay out of my own pocket to see a doctor for that? I'm not sick enough to see a doctor but sick enough to know I'm risking some serious sinus damage if I go to work.
 
ian said:
is this real life? Some of the replies here are cringeworthy
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Which replies are you referring to? The ones suggesting he goes home to spend thanksgiving with his family? Is that really that awful?

I commuted for several years, and know what it's like to jumpseat through the holidays. It's not easy but very doable. The OP mentioned that of all 8 classmates he's the only one not going home. Are the other 7 pilots considered dirtbag pilots? I highly doubt it. I'm sure they are all good people and are making a plan b,c,d, and e to make sure they make it back in time for their next training event. Plus he's commuting back on Friday, which is probably the lightest travel day over that 4 day weekend.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
Hopefully my suggestion re: Fedex isn't cringy.


I like this sweet talk about employers and well being. I agree with it, and after all they are writing our checks. But lets not pretend that there aren't guys out there who sit there and keep track of their rolling 12 month sick callout calendar and take convenient sickations. Or guys who commute and get hosed due to weather, mx, etc, call in honest, lose their pay, get an earful, and then learn their lesson that if it happens next time: call out sick. For some, sick time is a game played in the rolling 12 month calendar. For others, sick time is a backup to a missed commute. And yes, sick time is also used for sick time itself.

Didn't Delta guys take a huge stand in regards to their failed TA about having to get doc notes for sick calls? No pilot wants to get a doctor note. But lets be honest, there are many times when a sick call isn't really a sick call.
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i thought it was a good idea
 
blee256 said:
Which replies are you referring to? The ones suggesting he goes home to spend thanksgiving with his family? Is that really that awful?

I commuted for several years, and know what it's like to jumpseat through the holidays. It's not easy but very doable. The OP mentioned that of all 8 classmates he's the only one not going home. Are the other 7 pilots considered dirtbag pilots? I highly doubt it. I'm sure they are all good people and are making a plan b,c,d, and e to make sure they make it back in time for their next training event. Plus he's commuting back on Friday, which is probably the lightest travel day over that 4 day weekend.
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no, i'm on the go home side
 
Blackhawk said:
One other point about holidays and work.
As pointed out, most crew bases will put out food for crews.
Many hotels that cater to crews do the same. Discovered that this year at the Holiday Inn President Hotel, LIT. Messed up my bidding and got a carry over trip 31 Dec-1 Jan. The President had an open bar and buffet for airline crews. Good food and alcohol too, not crap. Nice party with a bunch of crews from different airlines.
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I did Thanksgiving in Newport News one year and the hotel brought us to (straight from the airport because they were closing soon) a country club that had a buffet that the company had paid for. There was an AWAC crew there as well but they were paying out of pocket and it was $40 a person. So. Much. Food. The next year I just happened to end up with the same overnight on Turkey Day and talked this huge game to the rest of the crew about how awesome the food was going to be. We got to the hotel and they have us plates from the same place but there was barely any food on them, it was cold and all mixed together. And no turkey. The only "meat" on the plate was tuna salad.

Autothrust Blue said:
Blehhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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It's just allergies... really.
 
Cruise said:
There are any number of reasons a pilot would call out sick without being "doctor sick" and having said sick call be 100% legitimate. So, how about you step off with that management B.S...or are you vying for a nice, new pilot-pushing desk job?!? :rolleyes:
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Yes. Our sick call does cover a wife/kid emergency and the likes.

No, not "pushing" any agenda. Just calling it out like it is. It happens, and there more than a few pilots who do it.
 
BarbieDreamPilot said:
I thought the Fedex idea was a good one, and I'm the only one in my class of 8 that isn't going home. I think there are lots of new guys like me who might not know Fedex jumpseats are an option. Now I know for the future they'd be a safer bet than mainlines.
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You should go home. The others are too, and you're the only one not going? Flying is about risk management and in this case with Fedex as a worst-case backup, I don't see why you wouldn't go home.
 
BarbieDreamPilot said:
I thought the Fedex idea was a good one, and I'm the only one in my class of 8 that isn't going home. I think there are lots of new guys like me who might not know Fedex jumpseats are an option. Now I know for the future they'd be a safer bet than mainlines.
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That should tell you that everyone on here is overreacting and that you should just go home. Work to live, not the opposite.
 
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