Regional Today, ULLC Tomorrow

86BravoPapa said:
Asking what question?
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I think something in ur question is getting lost to everyone. Youre in a twin turboprop, thats good flying and experience assuming youll fly more than 300hrs a year. You could do it another year and try a ULCC, if you dont get any responses goto a regional and fly for 6 months and if you try hard and get lucky youll be on ur way to a ULCC.

I dont think the regionals are bad or anything, which is not the opinion of this webboard at large. I was at edv and made good money and had good days off but lets be honest i worked for it and i was as buried deep in the union and the contract as you can get.

It hasnt been my experience that pilots have any trouble leaving from regionals to LCC or ULCC without turbine PIC, but everyone keeps telling me the 12 or so years of regional knowledge is all erroneous now so whatever.

In one year youre not going to be able to talk to pilots in a crew room or in a jetbridge over the sounds of the airlines vaccuming pilots up. Its 06-07 all over again and i lived through it, do whatwver you want short of a DUI, youll progress further in your career in 2-3 years than any of us did for first 9.
 
jynxyjoe said:
I think something in ur question is getting lost to everyone. Youre in a twin turboprop, thats good flying and experience assuming youll fly more than 300hrs a year. You could do it another year and try a ULCC, if you dont get any responses goto a regional and fly for 6 months and if you try hard and get lucky youll be on ur way to a ULCC.

I dont think the regionals are bad or anything, which is not the opinion of this webboard at large. I was at edv and made good money and had good days off but lets be honest i worked for it and i was as buried deep in the union and the contract as you can get.

It hasnt been my experience that pilots have any trouble leaving from regionals to LCC or ULCC without turbine PIC, but everyone keeps telling me the 12 or so years of regional knowledge is all erroneous now so whatever.

In one year youre not going to be able to talk to pilots in a crew room or in a jetbridge over the sounds of the airlines vaccuming pilots up. Its 06-07 all over again and i lived through it, do whatwver you want short of a DUI, youll progress further in your career in 2-3 years than any of us did for first 9.
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Thanks for your response and insights; it's exactly what I was looking for. Maybe I could have posed the question in a different way.
 
86BravoPapa said:
Thanks for your response and insights; it's exactly what I was looking for. Maybe I could have posed the question in a different way.
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Its fine. Keep in mind we are a restless pack that get triggered easily. Which LCC are you looking at, theres lots of guys on here from each of them?

From what ive seen, a year at a regional is enough to get on with spirit or jetblue, and southwest has been grabbing some 135 pilots though not as many regional pilots. Though youd probably need a percentage factor to see what happens quicker.

You dont happen to live in a base for someone already do you?
 
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jynxyjoe said:
Its fine. Keep in mind we are a restless pack that get triggered easily. Which LCC are you looking at, theres lots of guys on here from each of them.

From what ive seen, a year at a regional is enough to get on with spirit or jetblue, and southwest has been grabbing some 135 pilots though not as many regional pilots. Though youd probably need a percentage factor to see what happens quicker.

You dont happen to live in a base for someone already do you?
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I don't live in a base but I would have the ability to move.
 
Ayork62493 said:
Yeah, skip the regionals if you get the opportunity. Here I sit with training department experience, 1000TPIC, 4.0 Masters degree, etc. and I can’t get a call. So if you get hired bring me with you. Not to echo everyone else, but it’s not that easy.
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I hear ya.
 
Ayork62493 said:
Yeah, skip the regionals if you get the opportunity. Here I sit with training department experience, 1000TPIC, 4.0 Masters degree, etc. and I can’t get a call. So if you get hired bring me with you. Not to echo everyone else, but it’s not that easy.
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Autothrust Blue said:
Keep doing what you're doing?

ducks, runs for exit
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If there's one thing ive learned, you should be so disinterested in your regional and your job you should do everything you can to not work there. Pick up some stupid management or hr job where you still fly ~250 hours a year and make no effort of showing up for real work.

Working hard and bettering yourself and doing the job for thousands of hours aint what HR is looking for. Get out of work anyway you can, get to every job fair, dont worry about upgrading or doing anything productive just concentrate on that getting out. HR believes pilots are stupid and anyone can do their job, or that its really HR that does the real heavy lifting, and first hire other HR and low management drones.
 
jynxyjoe said:
Dude LCC and ULCC are grabbing guys before the regionals grab them these days. It's a different world.

Right now I think the DGI for EDV has turned into the EDV-JBU program. Fly for six months at EDV as an FO in NYC? Here's your JBU class date.


Pretty hard to argue anything other than it's easier than it's ever been.
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It’s not that easy to get a call/hired at a LCC either. Times are changing but this isn’t anything for granted.
 
Based on some of the responses of 'avoiding regionals,' does it potentially make more sense for people to go the ACMI route, if possible?
 
jynxyjoe said:
Its fine. Keep in mind we are a restless pack that get triggered easily. Which LCC are you looking at, theres lots of guys on here from each of them?

From what ive seen, a year at a regional is enough to get on with spirit or jetblue, and southwest has been grabbing some 135 pilots though not as many regional pilots. Though youd probably need a percentage factor to see what happens quicker.

You dont happen to live in a base for someone already do you?
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I can never tell if you're being facetious or not.
 
jtrain609 said:
I can never tell if you're being facetious or not.
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Dude, check your own seniority list. Youre grabbing edv FOs like theyre on clearance. If youre arguing thats not every newhire, its valid info. But it is some of your newhire class every month (from what ive seen of ex coworkers) and a year from now if edv exists itll be more.

I thought you were in the airlines back in 06 and 07? Youve gotta be blind not to see the stars lining up. Its gonna be 3 or 4 years of this nuttiness, and oh yeah, youre gonna be fighting DL, AA & UA who also grab those year one guys too if they score enough points (whatever magic sprinkle dust the computer equates).
 
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