Redbird G1000 TD???

I believe for a sim to be attractive it has be show at least a 50% saving over using the actual airplane. Desktop sims, more like 75% savings.
 
Cheapest option is to build your own sim/FTD and get it approved by the FAA

What does that involve? Do you know anyone who's gone through the process? I've looked at some of the AC's and it sounds like you need to measure response time from instruments and such...

I'm still very frustrated by the BATD/AATD market, I think they should easily produce nice portable non-motion AATD systems based on LCD panels for $10K or less.
 
What does that involve? Do you know anyone who's gone through the process? I've looked at some of the AC's and it sounds like you need to measure response time from instruments and such...

I'm still very frustrated by the BATD/AATD market, I think they should easily produce nice portable non-motion AATD systems based on LCD panels for $10K or less.
See here:
http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgAdvisoryCircular.nsf/list/AC 120-45A/$FILE/AC120-45A.pdf

The process to get them approved is somewhat complicated, but its possibly worth it.

I've been thinking about trying to build an R-22 AATD/FTD.
 
Yeah that's one of the docs I've read before. It sounds like it might be fairly involved to get approval for a one-off solution. I'd love to hear from people who've gone through the process to see what it really involves.
If you want approval for up to level 5 FTD then your local FSDO can do it, if you want approval for 6 or 7 AATD then the NSP (National Simulator Program) has to approve it and it would be more involved. These are the so-called level C and D sims that FSI/Simcom has. But mostly each sim is approved individually anyway, even if it is a 'model' of sim that say frasca builds, each one is evaluated as if it is unique.
 
That's what I'm talking about, this company "gets it"... thanks for the lead. Looks like it's only BATD, the move to AATD I believe would require physical buttons, which is a shame, a fully functional touch screen like this I think looks better than a lot of traditional sims.
Most of their products have physical buttons and knobs.

For those interested in FTD/flight simulators here is an interesting page with associated youtube videos:
http://www.diy-cockpits.org/coll/

Its some guy who built a collimated display (the kind that "real" flight simulators use) in his garage. If I had a huge CNC machine like he did I would be tempted to try to replicate that.

 
Oh I was just looking at their touch screen, didn't even see the other products.
Might also checkout simkits.com, they have a wider selection of things (even a G1000 clone) but they're pricey and the flight illusion kit is on average better quality.

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I agree with rotor2wing. The use of the Redbird TD and/or the Redbird Full Motion Simulator are an incredible source in which to obtain a great foundation in flying IFR, procedures, etc. Also, you can fly 20 different approaches in the Sim and it would days and plenty of DOLLARS to fly the same in the aircraft. Plus in the sim you can place yourself in any kind of weather, wind, dark, light, etc. Even if you were to set up a yoke/pedals/fsx and a good IFR training program at home and use it to get your foundation before spending the big dollars in the aircraft, will be a good advantage. I can say from personal experience that the heavy use of the TD and the full motion sim placed me far ahead of where I would have been wtihout using them first, plus I saved thousands by doing so. I know that American Flyers and Skyport have a heavy dose of Sim use prior to going up in the plane.
 
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