Recent experience at Chicago PEPC on 5/19

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RollnDollars86

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Hey guys, just wanna share my experience at the PEPC with you all.

I just came back from Chicago couple hours ago. The PEPC was quite enjoyable, everybody were nice, polite, and helpful. The interview was the first process and then the TOL. The girl that gave me the TOL congratulated me for passing the interview in which I asked why. She said that passing the interview most likely will guarantee a TOL pending everything goes well, the drug test, psych test, medical, and background.

I got to the PEPC a little before 11am and walk out after 5pm. Everything went smooth except that I failed my vision test. They gave me some vision paperwork for me to bring it to my Optometrist to fill out.

I just received a voicemail from a lady saying that I failed my MMPI test (psych test) and in which I need to go visit a shrink per se for further testing. I guessed I over analyzed the questions when I was taking the test. I'm not psychotic or anything! So right now I'm a little bit bummed out. Failing my vision test is an easy thing to correct but failing a psych test just makes me wonder "Am I really a PSYCHO?"
 
RollnDollars86 said:
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I just received a voicemail from a lady saying that I failed my MMPI test (psych test) and in which I need to go visit a shrink per se for further testing. I guessed I over analyzed the questions when I was taking the test. I'm not psychotic or anything! So right now I'm a little bit bummed out. Failing my vision test is an easy thing to correct but failing a psych test just makes me wonder "Am I really a PSYCHO?"
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This process is enough to make anyone "PSYCHO".
 
Dude nothing personal, but failing your psych profile is probably not a good sign as far as becoming hired. They told you to got to a psych. and once that happens you have to report it to the FFAA on any future medicals/flight physicals. Once you do that they look very hard at whether they want you as a controller.

Good Luck
 
I've been waiting for a post like this b/c I've been curious of the tests. Is the vision test the standard "cover you left eye and read this line, then cover your right eye and read the line backwards."

What is the psych test? Is it like what was on the AT-SAT or is it with an actual person?

Finally is the drug test pee or hair. I've had a bad experience with hair, it took them like 4 pulls to get a "quality hair". WTF is constitutes a "quality hair"!
 
ATLTRACON said:
Dude nothing personal, but failing your psych profile is probably not a good sign as far as becoming hired. They told you to got to a psych. and once that happens you have to report it to the FFAA on any future medicals/flight physicals. Once you do that they look very hard at whether they want you as a controller.

Good Luck
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I guess I can't change anything now but just go see the psych. If its not meant to be an ATC, then it's not meant to be.
 
I've been waiting for a post like this b/c I've been curious of the tests. Is the vision test the standard "cover you left eye and read this line, then cover your right eye and read the line backwards."

What is the psych test? Is it like what was on the AT-SAT or is it with an actual person?

Finally is the drug test pee or hair. I've had a bad experience with hair, it took them like 4 pulls to get a "quality hair". WTF is constitutes a "quality hair"!
 
TennisPlayer said:
I've been waiting for a post like this b/c I've been curious of the tests. Is the vision test the standard "cover you left eye and read this line, then cover your right eye and read the line backwards."

What is the psych test? Is it like what was on the AT-SAT or is it with an actual person?

Finally is the drug test pee or hair. I've had a bad experience with hair, it took them like 4 pulls to get a "quality hair". WTF is constitutes a "quality hair"!
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Psych test is the MMPI, google it and you shall see. Drug test is the urine test.
 
thesoonerkid said:
i imagine all they did for the interview was check your pulse
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Pretty much, the interview was very relaxed. I interviewed with a manager from Houston Center (can't remember his name). He worked as a controller for 5 years then moved into management to help improve the treatment of controllers. He seemed genuine with that statement, and all together was a nice guy to have a conversation with.

At any rate, don't sweat the interview, it's the basic HR questions: "Why do you want to be a controller," "How do you handle stress," "Give me a situation when you failed," etc. It was my impression that all the managers there wanted the applicants to succeed -- which is understandable with the staffing numbers at most places right now-- and they were very welcoming and friendly.
 
You only have two choices to choose from during the psych test which are basically yes or no. From my understanding they want to see consistency. They ask you similar questions in different ways, do you like to draw flowers, no, do you think you would like to be a florist, no. Do you get angry for no reason? Do the voices in you're head tell you what to do. A friend told me nobody has failed it in 40 years but he could've been lying.
 
RollnDollars86 said:
Hey guys, just wanna share my experience at the PEPC with you all.

I just came back from Chicago couple hours ago. The PEPC was quite enjoyable, everybody were nice, polite, and helpful. The interview was the first process and then the TOL. The girl that gave me the TOL congratulated me for passing the interview in which I asked why. She said that passing the interview most likely will guarantee a TOL pending everything goes well, the drug test, psych test, medical, and background.

I got to the PEPC a little before 11am and walk out after 5pm. Everything went smooth except that I failed my vision test. They gave me some vision paperwork for me to bring it to my Optometrist to fill out.

I just received a voicemail from a lady saying that I failed my MMPI test (psych test) and in which I need to go visit a shrink per se for further testing. I guessed I over analyzed the questions when I was taking the test. I'm not psychotic or anything! So right now I'm a little bit bummed out. Failing my vision test is an easy thing to correct but failing a psych test just makes me wonder "Am I really a PSYCHO?"
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your problem is that you were too normal,controllers are not normal people.
 
mtnman said:
Pretty much, the interview was very relaxed. I interviewed with a manager from Houston Center (can't remember his name). He worked as a controller for 5 years then moved into management to help improve the treatment of controllers. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F'ing KIDDING ME. I overthrew a country because I wanted to make a better life for the servants.He seemed genuine with that statement, and all together was a nice guy to have a conversation with. quote]
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ATLTRACON said:
mtnman said:
...He worked as a controller for 5 years then moved into management to help improve the treatment of controllers. YOU HAVE GOT TO BE F'ing KIDDING ME. I overthrew a country because I wanted to make a better life for the servants.He seemed genuine with that statement, and all together was a nice guy to have a conversation with. quote]
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I'm not in the business of kidding ATL. That is the reason the gentleman gave for taking the promotion to management. Now, is he completely benevolent in his choice? Probably not, but I've got to believe that some managers are not completely self-absorbed, and actually want what's best for controllers. However, not being in your environment yet, I admit, I could be wrong.
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mtnman said:
I'm not in the business of kidding ATL. That is the reason the gentleman gave for taking the promotion to management. Now, is he completely benevolent in his choice? Probably not, but I've got to believe that some managers are not completely self-absorbed, and actually want what's best for controllers. However, not being in your environment yet, I admit, I could be wrong.
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I'm not in the FAA environment yet, but from what I've seen in my past jobs, people seem to have great intentions when taking a management job. Once they get in the job, they realize how little say they have though, and realize it is easier to not make a difference and change the world so they follow the lead. This way they get to keep their management job and not get cut loose.
 
JKoffler44 said:
I'm not in the FAA environment yet, but from what I've seen in my past jobs, people seem to have great intentions when taking a management job. Once they get in the job, they realize how little say they have though, and realize it is easier to not make a difference and change the world so they follow the lead. This way they get to keep their management job and not get cut loose.
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Valid point, and quite possible.
 
mtnman said:
ATLTRACON said:
I'm not in the business of kidding ATL. That is the reason the gentleman gave for taking the promotion to management. Now, is he completely benevolent in his choice? Probably not, but I've got to believe that some managers are not completely self-absorbed, and actually want what's best for controllers. However, not being in your environment yet, I admit, I could be wrong.
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wow you nubees want to get hired so bad youll belive anything any manager will say, just watch out for the knife.
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