Reasonable Aircraft Rates?

sldauby

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Hello Everyone,

I have been looking at flight training costs lately, and was wondernig if the following are reasonable aircraft rates:

$125/hr 2005 Cessna 172SP with G1000 + Fuel
$113/hr 2005 Cessna 172SP + Fuel

Also, what does a fuel rate/surcharge usually cost?

One more question: since the PPL has both dual and solo requirements, about how many hours in each do students usually have upon completion of their training? Do they have more solo hours than dual, or is it about 50/50?

Thank you in advance. :)
 
sldauby said:
Hello Everyone,

I have been looking at flight training costs lately, and was wondernig if the following are reasonable aircraft rates:

Where are you flying? State?
 
I am nearly done with my PPL, so far to be honest with you I have more dual time with my instructor than solo time. I haven't soloed for my Cross country yet so I can't say for sure.
The rates are pretty reasonable for the model of the aircraft you are flying. I am flying a 1976 C-172 for $83.00/hr and that is in their opinion the discounted rate so your rates are not that bad compared to the new Cessnas that you will be flying.
But if I were you I would go with older models and pay less for my PPl. You really don't need to fly the brand new ones.
If you have any questions any time just feel free tp PM me.
 
In Martinsburg, WV (we're not talking back-country WV ... eastern panhandle right around Frederick & Hagerstown, MD ... Winchester & Leesburg, VA) I was renting older 172s ... a 1978 172N and a 1982 172P for $70/hour. Instructor was $30/hour. Last time I was there a few months ago the rates were the same ... not sure if they've changed by now though.
 
Cessna 172 $87
Cessna 150 $62
Instructor $27

These are the advertized prices at the place I go to in Maine (Bangor area). I know the 150 price is correct.

The 172s are 180 Hp conversions as well. Most of my time is in the 150s but I am checked out in the 172. I dont knot what year the planes are off the top of my head, they are definately from the 70s. There is nothing wrong with doing your training in a G1000 plane but it is definately more expensive.

2 hours wet in my 150 costs $1 less than 1 hour dry in your G1000. I would recomend finding a place that has older 172s or even 150s and learn in those. The G1000 and the new airplane may look cool but that is about all it does for a begining student.
 
In WI an SP w/o the G1000 is $100/hr, wet. A P model is currently $88/ hour. That's the fuel prices talking, though. They were $10 lower before the fuel prices went up
 
San Diego (Palomar Airport): Cessna 152, $49 WET
Cameron Park Airport, Cameron Park, CA: Cessna 172, $75 wet

I wouldn't recommend flying a new 172 during your primary training - waste of money IMO!
 
I might be wrong but I heard the G1000 172 SP cost less from the factory than a plain 172 SP. If this is true, it makes me wonder why the G1000 always cost more?

Anyone know for sure?
 
85/hr for 1979 172N
105/hr for 2002 172S
20/hr for instructor

BUT, 200/year membership dues

This is in the midatlantic. Your prices are not the bet but not bad

-kevin
 
BUT, 200/year membership dues

Yea, the rates I put above are membership rates. However, I don't know the membership fee. It's probably around $200-300/year. Otherwise the aircraft rates would be $145/hour and $133/hour respectively.
 
Timbuff10 said:
I might be wrong but I heard the G1000 172 SP cost less from the factory than a plain 172 SP. If this is true, it makes me wonder why the G1000 always cost more?

Anyone know for sure?

Only because people will pay a lot extra for the glass just because it looks cooler.
 
Why glass?

JaceTheAce said:
Only because people will pay a lot extra for the glass just because it looks cooler.
I've got to ask this...why do some new private pilot hopefuls feel like it's absolutely necessary to fly in a 2000-something model with gee-whiz glass panels? Am I missing something? Maybe I'm just odd, but I wanted to do my flight training in a Cessna 140/120 or Cub...but, I just couldn't find one!
 
I've got to ask this...why do some new private pilot hopefuls feel like it's absolutely necessary to fly in a 2000-something model with gee-whiz glass panels?

I am not stating that at all. The flight school I am looking at in fact has all 2001 models or newer except for a 1982 Cessna 182 Retractable gear.
 
sldauby said:
I am not stating that at all. The flight school I am looking at in fact has all 2001 models or newer except for a 1982 Cessna 182 Retractable gear.
Oh, no...I wasn't making a personal attack on you. Not at all! :) It just seems like to some people (not you sldauby!) a sweet avionics package is more important than actually learning how to fly the plane! I'm not knocking a loaded plane at all...but to me, when I was in training, I placed higher priority on flying the plane than wondering what the GPS could do. One of the flight schools I considered tried really hard to sell me on using a newer model Cessna with GPS over a "bare" C-152.
 
Hey Rick,

No problem. I kinda jumped the gun there. Sorry about that:)

But yes, I do understand what you are saying. One must be careful as what product a flight school will give you, whether they have new avionics or not.

Thanks,

Sebastien
 
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