Read back correct

A80TRACON said:
Oh, and I've learned over here that I've been done it all wrong for 30 years. It's 119 decimal 1 :bang:
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My first trip I was stepping all over them and the controllers second "Rogers and Correct" I don't think it adds too much to the frequency though.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
I don't think it adds too much to the frequency though.
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Now for a second let's let you be the controller serving the busiest airport in the world (presently) Let's say you issue 3000 clearances a day on your 4.5-5 hours actually plugged in, ranging from climb and maintain one four thousand to turn left heading one eight five to contact tower one one niner point one, to intricate specifically timed approach clearances so as to seemlessly be able to go to the other 5 moves you've already made in your head. Now imagine having to say readback correct 3000 extra times. It adds a boatload of extra work, freq congestion and would ultimately cause delays.

That's why we only correct you when your readback is wrong.....it happens a LOT less times than you being right.
 
A80TRACON said:
Now for a second let's let you be the controller serving the busiest airport in the world (presently) Let's say you issue 3000 clearances a day on your 4.5-5 hours actually plugged in, ranging from climb and maintain one four thousand to turn left heading one eight five to contact tower one one niner point one, to intricate specifically timed approach clearances so as to seemlessly be able to go to the other 5 moves you've already made in your head. Now imagine having to say readback correct 3000 extra times. It adds a boatload of extra work, freq congestion and would ultimately cause delays.

That's why we only correct you when your readback is wrong.....it happens a LOT less times than you being right.
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They don't say read back correct. Either Roger or correct. Some just double key the mic and continue with another instruction.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
They don't say read back correct. Either Roger or correct. Some just double key the mic and continue with another instruction.
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Just spent some time listening on LiveATC to the Calgary feed. Didn't hear the controllers do any of that after the pilot reads back an instruction.

Edit: well, I just caught a string of them in a row, I think the tail end of the controller saying "roger."
 
Stinger said:
Just spent some time listening on LiveATC to the Calgary feed. Didn't hear the controllers do any of that after the pilot reads back an instruction.

Edit: well, I just caught a string of them in a row, I think the tail end of the controller saying "roger."
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Canada always has to have the last word. Anything you say they'll still give a Roger even if it warrants no response or Roger would make no sense.
 
z987k said:
Canada always has to have the last word. Anything you say they'll still give a Roger even if it warrants no response or Roger would make no sense.
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When I work Canadians its always the reverse and I have an urge to Roger.

Moose123 Approach Moose123 with you, ATIS Zulu level at X thousand.
Me: Moose123 Thanks for Zulu expect runway Z
Moose123: Check remarks Moose123.
Thought bubble (Me: Checking) Wait crap, I didn't write anything down!
 
genot said:
When I work Canadians its always the reverse and I have an urge to Roger.

Moose123 Approach Moose123 with you, ATIS Zulu level at X thousand.
Me: Moose123 Thanks for Zulu expect runway Z
Moose123: Check remarks Moose123.
Thought bubble (Me: Checking) Wait crap, I didn't write anything down!
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I like how the Canadians say Check. I've started to use it myself in the last few years.
 
I feel like he dug his own grave by asking if it was ok to land on the beach and then making up that bs engine problem. Douchebag indeed.
 
For the record, we used to be required to acknowledge read backs, years ago... Not the case anymore, it's a hold over
 
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