Rant from a regional FO!
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Great point. Care to tell someone new in the industry the meaningful measures? Whether it be airline, corporate, or other?
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Itchy
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How come they are not just running the FO's through an ATP ride on their next training event? An hour and a half in a 1900 cost more than a week in a PA44? I'm sure it was a well thought out reason (well not that sure actually), but it seems like anyone who is flying it 5 days a week, and going through recurrent, should be able to nail the ATP ride?
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
ajdwings
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Seriously!! This is why this industry has become what it has. <1 year regional FOs whining about not upgrading in less than one year??
Come on mannnn! Suck it up or get out!
Until the regional airlines themselves get their act together and treat the job like a real airline job a regional wil always be a place to build time to get to the "end game".
In the past you needed to build time at a crappy fly by night company flying navajos or some other crapbox at night loaded with freight. You didn't care about QOL because you knew it wasn't permanent. It was just a way to build time and experience that the next level wanted.
All that's happened is that the "crappy fly by night company" step has been replaced with "crappy ass regional airline fly by night company" (except with really cool jetsssss).
Come on mannnn! Suck it up or get out!
Until the regional airlines themselves get their act together and treat the job like a real airline job a regional wil always be a place to build time to get to the "end game".
In the past you needed to build time at a crappy fly by night company flying navajos or some other crapbox at night loaded with freight. You didn't care about QOL because you knew it wasn't permanent. It was just a way to build time and experience that the next level wanted.
All that's happened is that the "crappy fly by night company" step has been replaced with "crappy ass regional airline fly by night company" (except with really cool jetsssss).
Cav: Yes!
MORE MONEY
MORE TIME OFF
Wing-slung engines, free pizza, leather coats, fireside chats with management, big planes, small planes, new planes, old planes, grandiose promises, "we love you" lounge tours where if you work just a wee bit harder there will be riches and rewards, none of it matters more than "more money, more time off" 
Gonzo
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Having no soul keeps me light on my feet. Suck it
Yeah. I think so. I should have clarified. I mean anything of value. Quitting McDonald's... eh... quitting college... eh. Something someone has dreamed about, and worked to get there, yes. Think of the guys you really know who have quit pilot training, quit BUDs or any other special program....quit ATC school, etc. Every one of those people always has a tinge of regret. I've never heard, "THAT WAS THE BEST DECISION I'VE EVER MADE." Ever.
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
How long did you work for HK?
desertdog71
Girthy Member
This is no different than other industries. I remember making $0.18 per mile and working like a rented mule driving an all spring ride flat top over 1,000,000 mile raggedy ass Freightliner FLD. Oh and BTW had a training contract for 1 year. On my anniversary date I left and made better money elsewhere. $0.23 as I recall. Trucking doesn't have the seniority nonsense though, so you can actually take your experience and "vote with your feet" in that business. After 15 years and balls enough to own your own business, you get to be like me and make good coin and tell shippers/dispatchers/management and others to piss off if they displease you.
The upside in aviation is there and its pretty significant but its going to take time and probably getting your johnson smacked in the dirt a few times along the way. I can always be a damn dirty trucker again if this doesn't pan out a second time. Do what you need to do man, its your life. You may or may not regret it, only time will tell.
The upside in aviation is there and its pretty significant but its going to take time and probably getting your johnson smacked in the dirt a few times along the way. I can always be a damn dirty trucker again if this doesn't pan out a second time. Do what you need to do man, its your life. You may or may not regret it, only time will tell.
Long enough to realize that I didn't want to be there anymore.
The guy installing my garage door opener was an owner-operator. His main company got bought out and they wanted him to guy a new tractor from a specific company, which was owned by another family member.
Says he's happier installing garage doors.
FWIW
But then, the guy had to be the brood of a "Bobby Boucher Jr" and "Milton" love tryst.
Polar742
All the responsibility none of the authority
Ambiguous. 6 mos, 5 years, 15 years?
Eh, some people like it more than others I suppose. I'm not a huge fan of teaching, although I do give my 100% every time. Some students are fun to fly with but it's ultimately more nerve wracking than a lot of other flying jobs. It's especially frustrating with certain students but that's the nature of the beast.
Yeah! Was he part of the "manual trim" crowd on the Junkstream?