Ramp checks

AngelFuree said:
Before I get jumped on, my mistake was not referencing it as a requirement for all solo flights, only. Dual flights are not specified. I stand corrected.

Reference: 9.5.1 in your P&P. I'm not making it up...
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wow, i hit that section and figured it wouldn't be there so i skipped to 10

amazing
 
TXaviator said:
so at UND you need the sectional, but "in the real world" you only need information pertaining to the flight, which if you are doing VFR-pilotage, you wouldn't neccessarily need a chart if you are familiar with the area (you could argue.)

right?
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Even so, the chart can help you figure out where you are in relation to what practice areas you are in or passing through, so you can make radio calls for everybody else. I personally don't have all the random roads used for boundaries memorized, so the chart is useful for that, at the very least. I don't make the rules, though, but I'm sure whoever does has a justified reason behind bringing something like a chart along. It's not like we absolutely are required to use it, and some people may be able to get by without just fine.
 
ChadW346 said:
Even so, the chart can help you figure out where you are in relation to what practice areas you are in or passing through, so you can make radio calls for everybody else. I personally don't have all the random roads used for boundaries memorized, so the chart is useful for that, at the very least. I don't make the rules, though, but I'm sure whoever does has a justified reason behind bringing something like a chart along. It's not like we absolutely are required to use it, and some people may be able to get by without just fine.
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...Unless you have the kneeboard printout that has all of the practice areas on it! :nana2:
 
airplanerik said:
...Unless you have the kneeboard printout that has all of the practice areas on it! :nana2:
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Ha, I forgot about that. I've actually got mine folded and flipped over to the side with all the frequencies on it, so I don't use it for the practice areas.
 
UAL747400 said:
Except for the "not suitable for navigation purposes" thing on it. Bah, I still use it! :panic:
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yeah but im not navigating by it, im just referencing it to be courteous for traffic.

not saying charts arent useful, because they definitely are.... just saying that i dont think they are required in SOME cases for a perfectly safe flight. and i am wondering if the FAA agrees with my assessment....?
 
TXaviator said:
yeah but im not navigating by it, im just referencing it to be courteous for traffic.

not saying charts arent useful, because they definitely are.... just saying that i dont think they are required in SOME cases for a perfectly safe flight. and i am wondering if the FAA agrees with my assessment....?
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Yeah I agree with you. However, there's always some "what if" situation that could come up that the FAA would love to violate us on if something bad happened.
 
UAL747400 said:
Except for the "not suitable for navigation purposes" thing on it. Bah, I still use it! :panic:
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Ha, that reminds me of the Cirrus POH:

"Do not use the optionally installed CMax Approach Charts function for navigation of the aircraft." Yeah, because I'm sure the owner of their brand spankin' new SR-22 isn't gonna use that $10,000 addition for anything...
 
XcalibeR said:
Ha, that reminds me of the Cirrus POH:

"Do not use the optionally installed CMax Approach Charts function for navigation of the aircraft." Yeah, because I'm sure the owner of their brand spankin' new SR-22 isn't gonna use that $10,000 addition for anything...
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not sure if you have ever tried to use those CMAX charts, but they are not very easy to use since not everything is displayed at once
 
Snickersnwa said:
You will soon enough! :cwm27: Especially when/if you instruct there...
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:yeahthat: I didn't really learn the boundaries until I was in 414 (with the exception of the easy ones like H). But now actually being able to look outside and pay attention to what I'm flying over instead of worrying about that whole flying the plane business, it's a lot easier to stay in them when you know what you're looking for :) For example, the southern border of A, just gotta find the white barn with three tree rows next to it...
 
XcalibeR said:
:yeahthat: I didn't really learn the boundaries until I was in 414 (with the exception of the easy ones like H). But now actually being able to look outside and pay attention to what I'm flying over instead of worrying about that whole flying the plane business, it's a lot easier to stay in them when you know what you're looking for :) For example, the southern border of A, just gotta find the white barn with three tree rows next to it...
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lol
 
My first flight here my CFI was trying to explain to me how to find my way around the practice areas... "You see that town over there?" me: "No, where?" Him: "See those trees?" me: "That's a town?!"
 
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